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Call for 1950s All-American articlesEdit

All - Over the years we have steadily been building out articles for members of All-American teams and now have articles for all players who have appeared on major All-American teams (consensus plus individual teams that make up consensus) going back to 1960. I recently created Jim Hagan for the 1959 article and have plans to create the last article from that year, Charlie Brown. That will leave us only 8 articles short from completing the 1950s. I was wondering if anyone would like to help create these?

* would complete the season article

Being able to get 100% of the All-Americans for the last 70 years would be a major milestone for the project. I hope that some of you will help see these to the finish. Rikster2 (talk) 14:02, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree, I think it would be a solid milestone for this WP. My schedule is tight but I'll try to carve out some time for Gene Schwinger. Depending on if I have time I'll definitely sign up for another one or two. SportsGuy789 (talk) 20:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Update - just finished Charlie Brown. 1959 is done (and therefore all years back to 1957). Rikster2 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Did McCoy and Smith. Rikster2 (talk) 21:30, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Finished Schwinger. I'll take Temple Tucker next. SportsGuy789 (talk) 00:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
Matheny done Rikster2 (talk) 16:14, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Ridley done. Rikster2 (talk) 19:34, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
You're making good progress. I promise I'll get to Tucker soon, life is preventing me from devoting a couple straight hours to concentrate on writing a good article at the moment. (talk) 20:26, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Ehmann done. 1956 is the only year with redlinks (2). Rikster2 (talk) 20:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
Temple Tucker done. Not gonna lie that one was a mother to put together. SportsGuy789 (talk) 06:17, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
Awesome! I have the sources for Capua lined up, just have to write the article. Not sure that will happen today, though. Rikster2 (talk) 12:27, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

Do you know any editors with subscriptions to birth and/or death registry databases? Tucker has no DOB/DOD info online at all that I could find. Side note, my next article is going to be Ronald Ross to finish out the Chip Hilton winners. SportsGuy789 (talk) 20:04, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

CBB schedule for non-US leaguesEdit

We're about to apply CBB schedules template for Philippine collegiate basketball team articles, commencing with 2019 UST Growling Tigers men's basketball team.

Considering this is a non-US team:

  • In {{CBB schedule start}} – Is it possible to add option to remove "state" in "Site city, state" column name?
  • In {{CBB schedule end}} – Also, a note "*Non-conference game" must be optional since some leagues do not have a concept of "conference" in the first place, so obviously all schedule entries are considered non-conference games.

Thanks. – McVahl (talk) 11:02, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm OK if it's parameterized and the default behavior remains the same. (FWIW, the use of {{CBB schedule label}} at the Growling Tigers's page looks inconsistent with Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility/Data_tables_tutorial#Avoiding_column_headers_in_the_middle_of_the_table.)—Bagumba (talk) 12:35, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
@Bagumba: re: {{CBB schedule label}} – Almost all NCAA Division 1 team season articles are doing that for previous years, e.g 1982–83 North Carolina Tar Heels men's basketball team#Schedule and results. The template is patterned to that styling. Hmm.. so this violation is already in place for n years? and someone just noticed it only today? – McVahl (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
Hence, I prefaced with "FWIW". It does drive me up the wall IRL when it's in an Excel and it screws up sorting (and more).—Bagumba (talk) 13:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • We should 1) rename site_cityst to site_location and 2) remove anything in the template which violates the accessibility parameters (though it doesn't look like it's a template issue but rather a formatting issue?) and perhaps expand non-conference to game_type. SportingFlyer T·C 16:25, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
About accesibility violation, while unaware of it, I put up {{CBB schedule label}} in other CBB schedule-related docs. I’ll undo my revisions within 24 hours. So.. what is the action on NCAA articles with this violation? Just leave it as is? I hope CBB articles could be coherent as WP:CFB articles in terms of styling. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion regarding site and game type. Seems OK to me. – McVahl (talk) 16:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • {{CBB schedule label}} has been removed from the associated docs. Actual template will be removed today. So... assuming we agreed with the suggestion, who will do the changes in {{CBB schedule start}} and {{CBB schedule end}}? Please note the templates are protected, and I have no right to make updates there. – McVahl (talk) 03:56, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
    @McVahl: If you are proficient in editing templates, you can place the code in the sandbox along with testcases, and then make a request at the respective templates to have it swapped. Otherwise, make a request at the template and see if someone volunteers to implement the changes. Or contact your favorite template editor directly. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 12:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @Bagumba: Thanks, but I've already started working on Template:CBB game log start. The {{Game log start}} is widely used (e.g. in WP:College baseball, and in pro leagues) so I suppose this could be another solution to accesibility violation discussed above, couldn't it? This will support compatibility to the existing {{CBB schedule entry}} so that the transition is minimal (assuming there is a plan to get rid of that violation). Your comments are very welcome. – McVahl (talk) 13:50, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    I would assume Template:CBB game log start is OK, and I'll commence with the transition of 2018 NCAA team articles to use the new template in next few days. :) – McVahl (talk) 12:11, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

Question about Template:Cbb linkEdit

Why does a link such as{{cbb link|1=1942|sex=men|team=Wyoming Cowboys|title=Wyoming}} link to 1942–43 Wyoming Cowboys men's basketball team instead of 1942–43 Wyoming Cowboys basketball team. There should be a way to include a cbb link for a team that doesn't need a men's or women's modifier? I have tried it without the gender parameter and it still includes the "men's" modifier-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 10:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

  • You can always create the redirect. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 17:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
Well the point of it is that a CBB link already links to the program article so even the link (as is) currently links to the Wyoming program article (albeit not directly because it links to the Wyoming Cowboys men's basketball redirect.) However, if someone was to create the article for 42-43, I do not think the cbb link will link to the created season article. Hence my question?UCO2009bluejay (talk) 00:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
In the documentation for {{Cbb link}}, it says under |team= that |sex= can be omitted to handle cases like this. However, it's not working that way. The default if |sex= is not specified is "men's". Maybe we introduce a "none" to not add anything?—Bagumba (talk) 06:46, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
I would think that would be an excellent idea. I will add a link to this discussion on the template's talk page.-UCO2009bluejay (talk) 21:24, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
now updated, see the documentation. Frietjes (talk) 15:03, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Category:Basketball players at the 2019 NCAA Men's Division I Final Four nominated for deletionEdit

This category (and I assume others of its kind) has been nominated for deletion. If you have an opinion, feel free join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 June 8#Category:Basketball players at the 2019 NCAA Men's Division I Final Four. Thanks Rikster2 (talk) 12:01, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Need further input on template-protected edit request in Template talk:CBB schedule entryEdit

I am inviting everyone to provide input or comment on edit request in Template talk:CBB schedule entry#Template-protected edit request on 5 June 2020. Thanks. – McVahl (talk) 19:29, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

High schoolEdit

I know we've had this discussion for players attending a college but not playing for the team, but what about high schools? Do we list high schools in the infobox if a player never played on the team but went to the school? ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 22:45, 12 June 2020 (UTC)

Do you have an example? I think the only exception would be if they somehow graduated without playing.—Bagumba (talk) 01:54, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
Example: Parker Jackson-Cartwright attended Sierra Canyon School but didn't play basketball due to an academic issue. ~EDDY (talk/contribs)~ 02:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
His college, Arizona, listed Sierra as his HS,[1] and he graduated there, so I would list it.—Bagumba (talk) 08:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion to amend WP:NCOLLATHEdit

Please weigh in on this discussion at Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#Proposal to amend WP:NCOLLATH to include coach guidance. Thank you. Rikster2 (talk) 22:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Can folks please weigh in here? Seems like a slam dunk to add at least SOME college coaches to the guideline. Rikster2 (talk) 23:14, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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