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New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (March 2019)Edit

Hello Wikimedians!

 
The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials on the Library Card platform:

  • Kinige – Primarily Indian-language ebooks - 10 books per month
  • Gale – Times Digital Archive collection added (covering 1785-2013)
  • JSTOR – New applications now being taken again

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Baylor University Press, Taylor & Francis, Cairn, Annual Reviews and Bloomsbury. You can request new partnerships on our Suggestions page.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 17:40, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Ocaasi (WMF).
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How can one contact a Wikipedian with access to Grove's Dictionary? I am trying to find a date of death for pianist August Frederick Ferdinand Hyllested, born 1858. There was an article on him in Grove's Dictionary of Music and Musicians (Supplement, 1922, vol VI), when he was apparently still living. Is there an article in subsequent editions of Groves that gives a death date? - Nunh-huh 20:32, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
Nunh-huh, Try posting your request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. Someone might see it there and be able to help you. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. I tried, but just couldn't find the right place! - Nunh-huh 19:13, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
Nunh-huh, you may already have found you answer, but in case you haven't: there is one mention of August Hyllested in Grove online, in the article on his student Arne Oldberg; there's no article on him, nor any mention in either The Oxford Dictionary of Music or The Oxford Companion to Music. There's no article on him in the 1980 print edition of Grove; volume 8, page 836, goes from Hyllary to Hylton. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:34, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Justlettersandnumbers, I did manage to post in the right place and someone got me an article from an old Groves. But it's also useful to know where he's not covered, so thanks for looking. - Nunh-huh 23:25, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Newspapers.comEdit

I'm lucky enough to have a complimentary subscription to newspapers.com, and grateful to all who helped to make that possible. However, it seems to be of only limited usefulness: whenever I go to actually look at a page (most recently this one), I seem to get a message that says "You need a subscription to view this page". Does anyone else have the same difficulty? Is this how it's supposed to work? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:42, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: It looks like your account has probably expired - they last one year at a time. You should be able to hit the Renew button here to request your account get renewed for another year. We've got a new feature in the works for giving you a forewarning about this for publishers like Newspapers.com who distribute fixed-length accounts, to avoid confusion. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:36, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Samwalton9 (WMF), I've applied for renewal. I look forward to the new feature. Meanwhile, I'm having much the same sort of difficulty with Gale/Cengage: I tried to access this, but got only the abstract. It's apparently available as part of Academic OneFile, to which I supposedly have access. Why aren't I able to read the article?
By the way, the bug I reported a year or more ago – which causes comments on the Wikipedia Library Card platform to disappear when trying to read with an iPhone – is still active. Comments don't appear on iPhone, but can be seen on Apple laptops. Thanks for all your help and advice, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 00:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
I'll look into the Gale issue for you. As for comments on iPhone, We thought we'd fixed that, but if not I'll re-open that task and look into it again. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

TransparencyEdit

Why don't we disclose the list of editors, who have access to a particular resource? ~ Winged BladesGodric 14:35, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Why would we? --Xover (talk) 15:39, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Why won't we? We needlessly shield this information from public eyes and this goes against our values of transparency.
A few weeks back, I sought for a L'Harmattan article over en-wiki RX. Now, L'Harmattan is a TWL partner whose subscriptions gets processed from fr.wiki. I did not intend to consume one account for accessing a single resource (it seemed unethical to me) and per a conversation with Nikkimaria, sought for folks over fr.wiki, who have access to it. But, I failed to reach a single user, who had a subscription to Harmattan. One had his user-box, despite expiration of the subscription whilst one did not choose to reply. Another, (who was twice-pinged by the former), did not choose to reply either. Per subscription-counts, it was clear that ample people had access to it, but I had no scope of knowing whom to contact other than those, who self-disclosed.
Such a list will aid in collaboration among users.WBGconverse 16:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I agree that we should make it as easy and convenient as possible to discover and contact those editors willing to service reference lookup and research requests (cf. eg. WP:RX, the userboxes; both of which I've gratefully availed myself of for much the same reasons you describe). But simply publishing the list of users with access to the various resources is too coarse an approach. Transparency is served (piecemeal) by things like the log on the front page of the Library Card Platform (the access ain't secret), but what you're requesting goes beyond transparency. --Xover (talk) 16:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
If you have problems disclosing what resources you can access over TWL, you have no business of being a claimant to them, at the first place. You are feeding on a community-resource. WBGconverse 16:41, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Xover: Those accounts are community resources, distributed by community approval. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:12, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, but I am not a "community resource". Whether I am willing to appear in a directory and service research and lookup requests is, like everything on Wikipedia, strictly voluntary. Now as it happens I'm perfectly willing to do so—happy to, even!—but we cannot presume that every volunteer is similarly inclined, nor would it be reasonable to make it a prerequisite of access. --Xover (talk) 16:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
The primary issue with creating such a list is that we at TWL don't always know who actually has access at any particular moment in time. Under the current method of distributing accounts, for most publishers we send information over to them for account setup, a process which is usually opaque to us. In some cases, the editor never completes required setup steps and so in fact never receives access - but we don't know that, all we know is that we approved & sent their application over. Additionally, accounts last for varying amounts of time; for some publishers accounts all expire on a specific date, for others accounts last for one year, and for others they never expire. This isn't information we store a complete picture on in the tool, so this muddies the data further. While we might have an approved & sent application for someone, we don't know if they ever completed setup, and we don't always know if their access is still active, at least in terms of data stored within the platform. As for whether, conceptually, we should share the information if we had it, I'd certainly be interested to hear the community's opinion - we've erred on the side of privacy until now, but if there was a feeling that this information should be accessible, then we could look into changing that. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:54, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

List of publishersEdit

In December, 2017 Nikkimaria created a partner-page for Springer-Nature, which indicates that the house was in an agreement with TWL to donate access by that time. About 18 months after that, on 7 May 2019, some user managed todiscover the dusty page and was surprised to not apply for the resource. Sam replied that TWL was waiting on some technical improvements....

Over Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Databases/Requests#ProQuest, I pinged Sam after about 2 years to let him update us of the developments, if any. He replied:- Our partnership with ProQuest, along with a few others, is waiting on proxy implementation in the Library Card platform. Whilst I asked him about a list of the few others, he chose to not reply any further.

Also, despite requested over his t/p to update us of the developments (if any) across the hordes of threads that span Wikipedia:The_Wikipedia_Library/Databases/Requests, Sam is yet to take such an initiative.

I am thus re-asking Sam to (1) list those publishers who have agreed to enter into an agreement with TWL , (2) update us of the progress in striking a deal with the various publishers enlisted over the above-linked page and (2) give a specific timeline, as to the implementation of the technical improvements. It seems that those technical improvements have been in a state of perpetual continuity, for about a year and half.....WBGconverse 13:30, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric: Thanks for your interest in these agreements and technical progress of the platform. I'd like to first request that you take a slightly less hostile tone when making enquiries - we're a small team and some good faith in both directions will go a long way. SpringerNature and ProQuest are indeed publishers we've signed agreements with to provide access via TWL. Both indicated that they would prefer to wait until authentication-based access was an option before going ahead with this - the manual account setup process we have now is often a lot of work for publishers to maintain - so we agreed that we would continue the setup process when that was available. In the case of SpringerNature we optimistically created an on-wiki signup page in advance. We don't make a full list of publishers who have agreements with us available because a) we don't always sign a memorandum of understanding with publishers, they're sometimes happy to go ahead without one, and b) we'd rather wait until the access was immediately available and then announce it. As is evident here, delays can happen after signing an agreement for a number of reasons, so making that information known in advance can lead to confusion.
As to the requests page, there isn't much to provide an update on. Over the last 1-2 years we've really been focused on improving our current account distribution workflow, including numerous improvements to the Library Card platform, and expected to be moving to an authentication-based system sooner. We haven't been as focused on active publisher outreach, at least here at TWL. We have been supporting some community members to create new partnerships, such as those with Economic & Political Weekly and Kinige. As for the timeline on the authentication system, we unfortunately had very long delays relating to legal contracts. I'm happy to say that those issues were recently resolved and we're finally in the process of technical implementation. Tentatively, we're looking at being ready within the next few months, but I don't have a hard timeline for you. I hope that helps clarify things, and again I appreciate your enthusiasm in learning about this. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 14:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

A proposal for WikiJournals to become a new sister projectEdit

Over the last few years, the WikiJournal User Group has been building and testing a set of peer reviewed academic journals on a mediawiki platform. The main types of articles are:

  • Existing Wikipedia articles submitted for external review and feedback (example)
  • From-scratch articles that, after review, are imported to Wikipedia (example)
  • Original research articles that are not imported to Wikipedia (example)

Proposal: WikiJournals as a new sister project

From a Wikipedian point of view, this is a complementary system to Featured article review, but bridging the gap with external experts, implementing established scholarly practices, and generating citable, doi-linked publications.

Please take a look and support/oppose/comment! T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 04:36, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Library Card platform down for maintenance from 2.20pm UTCEdit

Just a quick notice that the Library Card platform will be down for maintenance from ~2.20pm UTC. We expect the site to be back up within 30 minutes, but further delays are possible. I'll update here when the tool is back up. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:53, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

And we're back. Please let me know if anything doesn't appear to be working as intended. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 15:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
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