Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion

Administrator instructions

Miscellany for deletion (MfD) is a place where Wikipedians decide what should be done with problematic pages in the namespaces which aren't covered by other specialized deletion discussion areas. Items sent here are usually discussed for seven days; then they are either deleted by an administrator or kept, based on community consensus as evident from the discussion, consistent with policy, and with careful judgment of the rough consensus if required.

Filtered versions of this page Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion include:

Information on the processEdit

What may be nominated for deletion here:

  • Pages in these namespaces: Book:, Draft:, Help:, Portal:, MediaWiki:, Wikipedia: (including WikiProjects), User:, TimedText:, Education Program:, Gadget:, Gadget definition:, and the various Talk: namespaces
  • Userboxes (regardless of namespace)
  • Files in the File namespace that have a local description page but no local file (if there is a local file, Wikipedia:Files for discussion is the right venue)
  • Any other page, that is not in article space, where there is dispute as to the correct XfD venue.

Requests to undelete pages deleted after discussion here, and debate whether discussions here have been properly closed, both take place at Wikipedia:Deletion review, in accordance with Wikipedia's undeletion policy.

Before nominating a page for deletionEdit

Before nominating a page for deletion, please consider these guidelines:

Deleting pages in your own userspace
  • If you want to have your own userpage or a draft you created deleted, there is no need to list it here; simply tag it with {{db-userreq}}. or {{db-u1}}. If you wish to clear your user talk page or sandbox, just blank it.
Deleting pages in other people's userspace
  • Consider explaining your concerns on the user's talk page with a personal note or by adding {{subst:Uw-userpage}} ~~~~  to their talk page. This step assumes good faith and civility; often the user is simply unaware of the guidelines, and the page can either be fixed or speedily deleted using {{db-userreq}}.
  • Take care not to bite newcomers - sometimes using the {{subst:welcome}} or {{subst:welcomeg}} template and a pointer to WP:UP would be best first.
  • Problematic userspace material is often addressed by the User pages guidelines including in some cases removal by any user or tagging to clarify the content or to prevent external search engine indexing. (Examples include copies of old, deleted, or disputed material, problematic drafts, promotional material, offensive material, inappropriate links, 'spoofing' of the MediaWiki interface, disruptive HTML, invitations or advocacy of disruption, certain kinds of images and image galleries, etc) If your concern relates to these areas consider these approaches as well, or instead of, deletion.
  • User pages about Wikipedia-related matters by established users usually do not qualify for deletion.
  • Articles that were recently deleted at AfD and then moved to userspace are generally not deleted unless they have lingered in userspace for an extended period of time without improvement to address the concerns that resulted in their deletion at AfD, or their content otherwise violates a global content policy such as our policies on Biographies of living persons that applies to any namespace.
Policies, guidelines and process pages
  • Established pages and their sub-pages should not be nominated, as such nominations will probably be considered disruptive, and the ensuing discussions closed early. This is not a forum for modifying or revoking policy. Instead consider tagging the policy as {{historical}} or redirecting it somewhere.
  • Proposals still under discussion generally should not be nominated. If you oppose a proposal, discuss it on the policy page's discussion page. Consider being bold and improving the proposal. Modify the proposal so that it gains consensus. Also note that even if a policy fails to gain consensus, it is often useful to retain it as a historical record, for the benefit of future editors.
WikiProjects and their subpages
  • It is generally preferable that inactive WikiProjects not be deleted, but instead be marked as {{WikiProject status|inactive}}, redirected to a relevant WikiProject, or changed to a task force of a parent WikiProject, unless the WikiProject was incompletely created or is entirely undesirable.
  • WikiProjects that were never very active and which do not have substantial historical discussions (meaning multiple discussions over an extended period of time) on the project talk page should not be tagged as {{historical}}; reserve this tag for historically active projects that have, over time, been replaced by other processes or that contain substantial discussion (as defined above) of the organization of a significant area of Wikipedia. Before deletion of an inactive project with a founder or other formerly active members who are active elsewhere on Wikipedia, consider userfication.
  • Notify the main WikiProject talk page when nominating any WikiProject subpage, in addition to standard notification of the page creator.
Alternatives to deletion
  • Normal editing that doesn't require the use of any administrator tools, such as merging the page into another page or renaming it, can often resolve problems.
  • Pages in the wrong namespace (e.g. an article in Wikipedia namespace), can simply be moved and then tag the redirect for speedy deletion using {{db-g6|rationale= it's a redirect left after a cross-namespace move}}. Notify the author of the original article of the cross-namespace move.
Alternatives to MfD
  • Speedy deletion If the page clearly satisfies a "general" or "user" speedy deletion criterion, tag it with the appropriate template. Be sure to read the entire criterion, as some do not apply in the user space.
  • Proposed deletion is an option for non-controversial deletions of books (in both User: and Book: namespaces).

Please familiarize yourself with the following policiesEdit

How to list pages for deletionEdit

Please check the aforementioned list of deletion discussion areas to check that you are in the right area. Then follow these instructions:

Instructions on listing pages for deletion:

To list a page for deletion, follow this three-step process: (replace PageName with the name of the page, including its namespace, to be deleted)

Note: Users must be logged in to complete step II. An unregistered user who wishes to nominate a page for deletion should complete step I and post their reasoning on Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion with a notification to a registered user to complete the process.

I.
Edit PageName:

Enter the following text at the top of the page you are listing for deletion:

{{mfd}}
for a second or subsequent nomination use {{mfdx|2nd|{{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
If the nomination is for a userbox, use <noinclude>{{mfd}}</noinclude> as to not mess up the formatting for the userbox.

or

{{mfd|GroupName}}
if nominating several similar related pages in an umbrella nomination. Choose a suitable name as GroupName and use it on each page.

or

{{subst:md1-inline|{{subst:FULLPAGENAME}}}}
if you are nominating a userbox in userspace or similarly transcluded page.
  • Please include in the edit summary the phrase
    Added MfD nomination at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replace PageName with the name of the page that is up for deletion.
  • Please don't mark your edit summary as a minor edit.
  • Check the "Watch this page" box if you would like to follow the page in your watchlist. This may help you to notice if your MfD tag is removed by someone.
  • Save the page
II.
Create its MfD subpage.

The resulting MfD box at the top of the page should contain the link "this page's entry"

  • Click that link to open the page's deletion discussion page.
  • Insert this text:
{{subst:mfd2| pg={{subst:#titleparts:{{subst:PAGENAME}}||2}}| text=Reason why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
replacing Reason... with your reasons why the page should be deleted and sign the page. Do not substitute the pagename, as this will occur automatically.
  • Consider checking "Watch this page" to follow the progress of the debate.
  • Please use an edit summary such as
    Creating deletion discussion page for [[PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
III.
Add a line to MfD.

Follow   this edit link   and at the top of the list add a line:

{{subst:mfd3| pg=PageName}}
Put the page's name in place of "PageName".
  • Include the discussion page's name in your edit summary like
    Added [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]
    replacing PageName with the name of the page you are proposing for deletion.
  • Save the page.
  • If nominating a page that has been nominated before, use the page's name in place of "PageName" and add
{{priorxfd|PageName}}
in the nominated page deletion discussion area to link to the previous discussions and then save the page using an edit summary such as
Added [[Template:priorxfd]] to link to prior discussions.
  • If nominating a page from someone else's userspace, notify them on their main talk page.
    For other pages, while not required, it is generally considered civil to notify the good-faith creator and any main contributors of the miscellany that you are nominating. To find the main contributors, look in the page history or talk page of the page and/or use TDS' Article Contribution Counter or Wikipedia Page History Statistics. For your convenience, you may add

    {{subst:mfd notice|PageName}} ~~~~

    to their talk page in the "edit source" section, replacing PageName with the pagename. Please use an edit summary such as

    Notice of deletion discussion at [[Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/PageName]]

    replacing PageName with the name of the nomination page you are proposing for deletion.
  • If the user has not edited in a while, consider sending the user an email to notify them about the MfD if the MfD concerns their user pages.
  • If you are nominating a Portal, please make a note of your nomination here and consider using the portal guidelines in your nomination.
  • If you are nominating a WikiProject, please post a notice at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, in addition to the project's talk page and the talk pages of the founder and active members.

Administrator instructionsEdit

XFD backlog
V Oct Nov Dec Jan Total
CfD 0 0 19 102 121
TfD 0 0 0 7 7
MfD 0 0 0 1 1
FfD 0 0 27 3 30
AfD 0 0 0 18 18

Administrator instructions for closing and relisting discussions can be found here.

Archived discussionsEdit

A list of archived discussions can be located at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates.

Current discussionsEdit

Pages currently being considered for deletion are indexed by the day on which they were first listed. Please place new listings at the top of the section for the current day. If no section for the current day is present, please start a new section.

January 24, 2021Edit

Draft:Cyborg (upcoming film)Edit

Draft:Cyborg (upcoming film) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Probably similar content to this MFD content, since Ray Fisher refuses to deal with DC anymore Starzoner (talk) 13:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Pamela KoshEdit

Draft:Pamela Kosh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Unlikely to meet NACTOR or GNG any time soon, considering the subject is deceased and thus will not play any further roles. No independent coverage. --IWI (talk) 13:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Ganesh AloneyEdit

Draft:Ganesh Aloney (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

another potential blp problem . Or should I be bold, and delete them just giving blp as the reason? DGG ( talk ) 05:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Brandi NeidleinEdit

Draft:Brandi Neidlein (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

possible blp violation, for all we know. DGG ( talk ) 05:12, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Mj FowlerEdit

Draft:Mj Fowler (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

no imaginable potential for an article for this high school student who was an extra in one netflix show. This is essentially a blp with no source at all . As we do not have a speedy criterion, I bring it here. DGG ( talk ) 05:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

January 23, 2021Edit

Draft:Kauser KonokEdit

Draft:Kauser Konok (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Hopeless draft. Seems to have been created with promotional intent. Adam9007 (talk) 21:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Delete - Not sure why the speedy delete was declined. A spa account creating a page promoting their social media accounts. This is G11 all day. Sulfurboy (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

G11 only applies if the language is promotional, which it isn't. Adam9007 (talk) 21:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
In what world is telling people you're a youtuber and following it up with the names of your social media accounts not promotional? I know I've been away for a few months. Has something changed with G11 guidelines that I'm not aware of? Sulfurboy (talk) 22:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
You know this is an autobio how? WP:G11 states, quite clearly: Any article that describes its subject from a neutral point of view does not qualify for this criterion. There's nothing here that's actually promoting anything; it's just saying what it is. Adam9007 (talk) 22:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Goud Qala MangalEdit

Draft:Goud Qala Mangal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Author continues to disruptively resubmit with no improvement after being warned an MfD nomination would happen if they did so. SK2242 (talk) 19:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Delete - I can't find a single source that credibly shows this is an incorporated town or village. In fact, I can't find anything about it on Google whether searching by the Anglican name or in Pashto. My vote would flip obviously is someone can establish notability. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Stop the stealEdit

Draft:Stop the steal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

A terrible trolling draft and should never be a article ever and should be deleted due to the false claims 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 11:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete: a non-sense draft created by a troll. —hueman1 (talk contributions) 13:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete - It needed rejecting, and I rejected it. It will expire in six months. We are here and so might as well delete it now. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete: Reasons cited above.--Surv1v4l1st Talk|Contribs 17:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Stop the Steal is likely notable enough for an article but obviously should not be written from anything other than a neutral point of view. SK2242 (talk) 19:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

File talk:Rosie Fellner at the BAFTAs 2014.jpgEdit

File talk:Rosie Fellner at the BAFTAs 2014.jpg (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)
(Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) SK2242 (talk) 19:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

This page is tagged with {{g8-exempt}}. I feel that this tag is inaccurate and the page is not, in fact, useful to Wikipedia.—S Marshall T/C 19:52, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SK2242 (talk) 19:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

January 22, 2021Edit

User:DeborahPlatt/The MansfieldsEdit

User:DeborahPlatt/The Mansfields (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Old "draft" in user space, fails WP:FAKEARTICLE. Not worked on for 10 years, no need to keep forever. P 1 9 9   21:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete - A draft in user space that would have gone G13 if submitted for review. Originator created this draft and went away ten years ago. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

User:IPLeadersEdit

User:IPLeaders (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Promotional userpage, fails WP:UPNOT. P 1 9 9   21:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete - Could be tagged as U5, but we are here, and any speedy reason is a reason for XFD. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

User talk:142.127.189.75Edit

User talk:142.127.189.75 (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Improper talk page usage JsfasdF252 (talk) 12:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep - The comment, which is merely silly, was made by a different IP address than the talk page, so that deletion is even more silly than the comment. The nominator should stop ragpicking. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep This is getting absurd. Sulfurboy (talk) 22:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

User talk:192.141.246.157Edit

User talk:192.141.246.157 (edit | subject | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

The only content is "Hey". JsfasdF252 (talk) 12:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep - I don't get this nom at all. Best case scenario we eliminate a page that is doing zero harm. Worst case scenario we absolutely push away a potential contributor. WP:BITE Sulfurboy (talk) 12:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - The nominator should stop ragpicking. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Speedy keep: What? Come on. No. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 11:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

January 21, 2021Edit

Draft:Ramnath ChoudharyEdit

Draft:Ramnath Choudhary (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

This looks like a blatant hoax. Cupper52 (talk) 14:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • delete as an unsourced BLP. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:10, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete by applying common sense to unsourced BLP draft. (There is no policy calling for deletion of unsourced BLPs in draft space.) Robert McClenon (talk) 18:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/MattisseEdit

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Mattisse (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

I could mark this page historical if possible. There have been no new socks for a while now. Cupper52 (talk) 12:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep, no new socks reported is not the same as no new socks. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep unless the deletion request comes from an SPI clerk. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - it's not really miscellany. Victoria (tk) 22:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep - I am with Smokey on this one.... SPI clerks use LTA for a good reason. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 19:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:The ágnostos fóvos effectEdit

Draft:The ágnostos fóvos effect (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Appears to be a hoax. No sources cited, and a google of 'ágnostos fóvos effect' yields precisely nothing. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 09:11, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

A Google yields 'It looks like there aren't many great matches for your search', the 'ágnostos fóvos effect' is probably a pure hoax. Speedy deletion for this draft (please correct me if I'm wrong because I'm new to MfD). Johnnyconnorabc (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete Section G3 of the speedy deletion criteria-blatant hoax. –Cupper52Discuss! 12:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
    I intially did (see hist), but the template ({{db-hoax}}) explicitly states This only applies to cases where the deception is so obvious as to constitute pure vandalism, and I don't think this qualifies, hence the MfD. Giraffer (talk·contribs) 14:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as something obviously just recently made up by the author. Like A11 in mainspace, this is incompatible with the purposes of Wikipedia. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete as an application of common sense to crud in draft space. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:00, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Pradeep Kumar SinghEdit

Draft:Pradeep Kumar Singh (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Hopeless draft. Would be an obvious A7 if it were in mainspace. It's a shame we can't speedy these kinds of pages when they're in draftspace. Adam9007 (talk) 02:09, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep per WP:NMFD. G13 exists, so there is no need to speedy or bring here. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 16:00, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete as an unsourced BLP. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete as an application of common sense to unsourced BLPs, in the absence of a policy about unsourced BLPs in draft space. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete People writing about themselves should not be encouraged. SK2242 (talk) 19:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

January 20, 2021Edit

Draft:SDSS J140821.67+025733.2Edit

Draft:SDSS J140821.67+025733.2 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

The main page has already be deleted, and the draft does not cite any sources. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 23:35, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Delete as the result of a database error. Google it to read more. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:15, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
A database error? 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 01:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
I see it now. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 01:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - We don't need to delete a draft just because it contains a scientific error, unless the originator requests deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
The main article has already been deleted. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 19:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Draft:Aya NikolaEdit

Draft:Aya Nikola (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Alternate, abandoned draft for a page that had already been created under a different name (as Agios Nikolaos of Angelocomis). This page was deleted at AfD, as its subject was shown to be an historical error (a person of this name never existed). Anything that could be developed from this second draft would meet the same issue. Fut.Perf. 16:30, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

January 19, 2021Edit

Wikipedia:Templates with red links/112Edit

Wikipedia:Templates with red links/112 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

The original submitter “Tom Radulovich” thought that the page should be delete because it had no substance, but I think the history of this page might be useful. Did you know? Alcremie's 1000th edit was made very close to the 20th anniversary day of Wikipedia. 03:40, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

--Did you know? Alcremie's 1000th edit was made very close to the 20th anniversary day of Wikipedia. 03:41, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment - The database dumper is a current editor. Waiting to see whether anyone provides a reason either to Keep or to Delete. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:23, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

January 16, 2021Edit

Draft:ISKCON NepalEdit

Draft:ISKCON Nepal (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Resubmitted multiple times despite multiple rejections. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 20:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Keep No valid reason for deletion given. Adam9007 (talk) 20:22, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

*Keep No reason for deletion and sourced. Free speech of 1000's (talk) 20:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC) Blocked sockpuppet Sro23 (talk) 21:15, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

The MFD is valid for tendentious resubmission of the draft despite multiple AFC reviewers saying how there's not enough to show independent notability from ISKCON. Also per WP:WITHIN this can easily fit in a section in ISKCON. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 20:50, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Which part if it has sources are you struggling to get to grips with? Free speech of 1000's (talk) 21:04, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I see enough evidence to open a SPI (and I have). I'm considering if ANI is warranted but I'll wait for the outcome of the SPI. Pahunkat (talk) 21:00, 16 January 2021 (UTC)It's Evlekis again, striking this comment Pahunkat (talk) 21:45, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete Per nom. Pahunkat (talk) 21:13, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete no reason to keep this draft --Martin Urbanec (talk) 22:20, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Mainspace it. Worthy of WP:Stub. The suggested redirect target, International Society for Krishna Consciousness#Centers worldwide#Nepal, is a very small part of a large and very broad article, and I think this major temple is worthy of a spinout. I also think the decline reasons lack substance, and the reviewers standard for acceptance is too high. —-SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Is it going to be about the temple then? It should have more details about the temple itself, its construction and support. But it's far from containing any of that information as it stands. This is mainly because of the tendentious resubmissions by socks. If someone wants to write up the temple article and make it a stub then that's a different story. Call it ISKCON Temple Nepal. Compare with the other temple articles like ISKCON Temple Chennai. But branch organizations and locales usually don't get their own article if the verbiage can be described in the main. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 18:53, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
It’s already about the temple. It’s an important temple and tourist attraction and there is an abundance of sources. It already meets WP:Stub. Ideas of merging and improvement are for when it’s in mainspace. I consider the declines to have been over-demanding, and for that I forgive the resubmissions. —SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:50, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the first decline comment: "Comment: As with Hare Krishna in Macedonia, this can be a section in the Hinduism in Nepal article and be developed there. It can also be added to the ISKCON article. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:25, 18 December 2020 (UTC)"
I think that should have been an "accept" followed by tagging it for a proposed merge. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 04:46, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
While I think "accept, and merge and redirect to International Society for Krishna Consciousness#Nepal" was a better option than declining, the same outcome can be achieved by
Redirect the draft to International Society for Krishna Consciousness#Nepal.
Having gone through many ghits for ISKCON Nepal and its temple, I conclude that it is not independently notable, but should be covered in that article. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete - Resubmitted after rejection without proper discussion of the rejection, and then repeated removing of the history. Robert McClenon (talk) 14:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Keep. Definitely seems like this would have enough sources handy to have a full article if it were in the Anglosphere; until those turn up, it seems perfectly fine to have it in our collective bullpen. Abeg92contribs 20:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Retain - No prejudice against moving it to the mainspace if anyone deems it fit. Personally, I would suggest userfying this per WP:DUD. Topic seems reasonable and something may come of it per SmokeyJoe and Abeg92. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 04:42, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Sulfurboy, Curbon7, as AFC reviewers who rejected the draft, can you provide your thoughts on this? AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 00:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete I would've been fine with keeping it until it stales out after 6 months, but I presently support deletion for the reasons brought up by Robert. Curbon7 (talk) 03:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Delete We have three asserions for keeping it, but neither of those three are willing to bale the WP:HEY. The first asserion for a keep is that our "standard for acceptance is too high" and that the decline reasons "lack substance". The burden of establishing (or disproving) notability is on the page creator, not the reviewer. So not sure what that's about. Second keep vote is basically a passive aggresive accusation of prejudice; that we would treat this differently if it were in the Anglosphere which is just patently absurd. Third suggests userifying via WP:DUD, which makes sense except for the fact that we have to consider not only content here, but conduct. If this were userified it isn't that much of a stretch to imagine that the parties involved would just resubmit it anyways.
TL;DR we have three keep votes and not a single one actually argues why the subject is notable.
Easy delete considering the tendentious resubmissions by socks and a bit of salt should be considered if it pops up again. Sulfurboy (talk) 14:42, 21 January 2021 (UTC)


Old businessEdit

January 15, 2021Edit

Draft:WYTGEdit

Draft:WYTG (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) – (View MfD)

Apparent hoax. Public license information links are 404s, a web search for WYTG yielded nothing for a real TV station, and the infobox image was taken from a Fandom page - [3]. Additionally, I have suspicions that the article creator is WP:NOTHERE, judging by their contribution history. The Grand Delusion(Send a message) 00:57, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Weak Keep - Not a blatant hoax, and it's a draft, not submitted to article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:33, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Closed discussionsEdit

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Archived debates