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Portals WikiProject update #012, 15 July 2018

We have 97 participants.

Getting faster

Automation makes things go faster, even portal creation. One of the components Certes made was {{Transclude list item excerpt}}. I became curious about its possible applications.

So I worked out a portal design using it, the initial prototypes being Portal:Kyoto (without a "Selected pictures" section), and Portal:Dubai (with a "Selected pictures" section). Then I used Portal:Dubai as the basis for further portals of this type...

I was able to revamp Portal:Munich from start to finish in less than 22 minutes.
Portal:Dresden took about 19 minutes.
Portal:Athens took less than 17 minutes.
Did Portal:Florence in about 13 minutes.
Portal:Stockholm also in about 13.
Portal:Palermo approx. 12 minutes.


To see, and to show, what may become feasible via automation.

It now looks highly feasible that we could get portal construction time down to a few minutes, or maybe even down to a few seconds.

The singularity is just around the corner. :)


When using the {{Random slideshow}} template to display pictures, be sure to use the plural tense in the section title: "Selected pictures". That's because slideshows don't show up on many mobile devices. Instead the whole set of pictures is shown, hence the section title "Selected pictures", as it fits both situations.

In case you are curious, here is a list of the portals so far that have a slideshow:

Progress on intro conversions

The intros for most of the portals up through the letter "O" have been converted, using this wikicode:

{{Transclude lead excerpt | {{PAGENAME}} | paragraphs=1-2 | files=1}}
{{Box-footer|[[{{PAGENAME}}|Read more...]]}}

Where the pagename didn't match the article title for the subject, the title was typed in.

Most of the portals that do not contain {{/intro}} or {{{{FULLPGENAME}}/Intro}} have not yet been processed.

About a thousand portals use the method of selective transclusion for the intro section. That's about two-thirds. That means we have one-third of the way to go on the intro section conversions.

Much more to come...

So much has been happening with portals that I can't keep up with it. (That's good). Which means, more in the upcoming issue. Until then, see ya 'round the project. Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   08:47, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

WikiGnome task requests from the Portals WikiProject

Here are some relatively minor tasks that are fairly repetitive, just the way you like '7em...

Add missing completed portals to Portal:Contents/Portals

Here are some new portals:

Add panoramas

Here's a fun one, that really brightens up a page...

Add a panoramic pic to the top of geographic portals, such as cities, states, provinces, countries, regions, and continents.

Do one, here or there, as you feel like it. Do as many as you like. Every little bit helps.

Please do not add pics over 2 megabytes in size, as they can cause the portal scripts to time out, causing empty sections, or sections with error messages. Watch out, because some of those pictures are huge, like 12 megabytes or more. Less than one megabyte is best, if you can manage it.

Pictures can be found at commons:. Search strings that work well with the city name to find these are "skyline" or "panorama".

Geographic portals are listed in the Geography section of Portal:Contents/Portals. City portals are shown in parentheses.

Here is an example of the main template used to place panoramic pics:

{{wide image|Prague Panorama - Oct 2010.jpg|750px|border=no}}

Which looks like this:

Here are some examples of city portals with panoramas or panoramic skylines in their intro sections:

Have fun.    — The Transhumanist   02:17, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

noinclude !!

If you still think that Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It's Alive! (card game) should be deleted, for goodness sake, bracket the speedy tag with <noinclude></noinclude>. Horrible sense of déjà vu - see this (where I have explained the problem in case you also do not understand). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:52, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

The nominator was disruptive but I'm not sure the nomination was made for disruptive purposes; I wasn't sure of its notability and if asked would have probably recommended it for AFD although with the additional references I now oppose deletion. I'm not certain that it's a valid speedy keep but I won't take it to deletion review. Peter James (talk) 22:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
@Peter James: I was closely following the speedy keep criteria so I more or less ignored your comment as you didn't explicitly recommend deletion or redirection. Sorry if it caused any confusion. wumbolo ^^^ 22:38, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Other AfD

@Peter James: you contested my speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/It's Alive! (card game) while Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Onision was deleted by RHaworth. Can you elaborate why? wumbolo ^^^ 22:16, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

I've replied above about the card game. I suspected the Onision AFD was more of a case of WP:IDONTLIKEIT, so potentially a G3 deletion although I don't think G5 applies as the nominator was not blocked at the time. Peter James (talk) 22:29, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
@RHaworth: would you please undelete Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Onision as the nominator was not blocked at the time? (thus failing G5) wumbolo ^^^ 22:38, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Non-admin closure of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annie LeBlanc (entertainer)

Hi there,

I noticed you non-admin-closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Annie LeBlanc (entertainer). I stand by my deletion !vote on the article's discussion, and I noticed that the consensus was relatively undecided (including nom, 4 for delete, 4 for keep). Could I inquire some additional information as to why you felt the result of the discussion was keep? --HunterM267 talk 23:21, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

@Hunterm267: sure. I felt that the keep voters provided counter-arguments to delete voters more often than the other way around, and there were no new arguments for a couple of days. You cited WP:TOOSOON, which is an essay, without further elaborating on it; I assume it is obvious that you meant that it was too soon for the subject to have an article, but I don't think it's as simple as that. I judged that the consensus was that the article passes WP:MUSICBIO as multiple users said that it passed it. And most importantly, the keep voters provided other arguments, aside from WP:MUSICBIO, which weren't really responded to. wumbolo ^^^ 23:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to provide me your reasoning and for discussing with me. I don't wish to contest the closure, and I understand your reasoning for doing so. Cheers, HunterM267 talk 17:33, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
You're welcome. wumbolo ^^^ 19:13, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #013, 18 July 2018

I got overwhelmed IRL (in real life) during the production of issue #12. So, here is a catch-up issue, to help bring you (and me) up to speed on what is happening with portals...

By the way, we still have 97 participants. (Tell all your friends about this WikiProject, and have them join!)


One cool feature of some of the geographical portals is a panoramic picture at the top of the intro section.

Check these out:

The Portals WikiGnome squadron is busy adding panoramas to geographical portals that don't yet have one. Feel free to join in on the fun. See task details at Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals#Add a panorama or skyline to a geographic portal.

Caveat: avoid super-huge pics, as they can cause portal scripts to time-out. Please try to keep picture size down below 2 megabytes. Thank you.

Auto-populated slideshows

Speaking of pictures...

We now have two slideshow templates. You may be familiar with {{Random slideshow}}, in which the editor types in (or copies/pastes) a list of pictures he or she wants it to display.

Well, now we have another template, courtesy of Evad37, which accepts one or more page names instead, and displays a random image off of the listed pages. So instead of listing dozens of files by hand, you can include a title or three to be scanned automatically. It even lets you specify particular sections.

The new slideshow template is {{Transclude files as random slideshow}}.

Here's a sample, that grabs images from a single page:

Selected motorcycle or motorcycling pictures

New Template:Box-header colour

Speaking of new templates, here's another one!

Also from Evad37, we have a new component for starting section boxes, that is color configurable, and that bypasses the need for box-header subpages altogether. It is {{Box-header colour}}.

For color support, see Web colors.

For the discussion in which this was inspired, see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Tasks#Colour combinations for accessibility.

(In case you didn't notice, the slideshow box above uses this new template).

BTW, don't forget to close your box with {{Box-footer}}.

Where are we on the redesign?

The answer to this question is quite involved, and would fill this page to overflowing. Therefore, this subject, including a complete update on where we are at and where we are going with portal design, is covered at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design.

Where are we on portal conversion?

An AWB pass to convert intros on the portals has been completed. The pass couldn't convert them all (due to various formatting configurations, etc.).

All but about 170 portals now have introductions selectively transcluded on the base page. Not counting manually maintained portals, that leaves about 70 portals that either need their intros converted, or they need an intro.

Next, we'll be converting the categories sections!

What's the plan, man?

The course of action we have been taking goes something like this, with all steps being pursued simultaeneously...

1) Design a one-page automated portal model

2) Convert existing portals to that design (except those being manually maintained)

3) Remove subpages no longer needed

4) Develop further tools to empower editors working on portals

Later, when the tools are up to the task, filling in the gaps in coverage (with new portals) will also become practical.

Are we caught up yet?

Probably not.

Who knows what our programmers and editors have dreamed up while I was writing this.

See ya again soon,    — The Transhumanist   11:09, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #014, 27 July 2018

Development of design continues, full speed ahead...

Excerpt slideshows are here!

Can you say "paradigm shift"?

Now, in addition to picture slideshows, we have slideshows that can display excerpts. Portals are not just for topic tasting anymore. Now they can be made useful for surveying Wikipedia's coverage of entire subjects. This gives a deeper meaning to their name. Hmmm. "Portals"... Doorways to knowledge.

Portal:Lithuania was redesigned using excerpt slideshows. Check it out.

For those of you who cannot wait to test out these new toys...

We have not one, but three excerpt slideshow components to pick from:

{{Transclude excerpts as random slideshow}}

For this one, you specify the page names where the excerpts are to be extracted from.

{{Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow}}

This one accepts source pages from where the page names are gathered from list items. Then an excerpt from one of those pages is displayed. The selection of what is included in the slide show can be limited to a specific number from the collection (of the page names gathered), and that selection is renewed from scratch each time the page is purged.
For example, if you specify Template:World Heritage Sites in Spain as a source page, the slideshow will cycle through those sites. Now you don't have to type them in one-by-one. This greatly reduces portal creation time.

{{Transclude linked excerpts as random slideshow}}

Same as above, but gathers links instead of just linked list items.

Panoramic banners

{{Portal image banner}} displays a panoramic picture the width of the page, and adjusts its size, so it stays that way even if the user changes page view size. And it accepts multiple file names, so that the picture displayed randomizes between them each time the page is visited/purged.

Give resizing the page a try:

Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania.

You can now balance section boxes


Reptile types
Amphibian types


Reptile types
Amphibian types

Notice how the box bottoms line up. That readjusts even if you click the slideshow buttons.

The template used for this is {{Flex columns}}.

By the way, when you include more than one box in a column, any left over whitespace in that column is divided between them.

Box-header colour

You may have noticed the new {{Box-header colour}} template used above. It lets you pick the color locally (right on the same page). Before, this was handled on a subpage somewhere.

Testing, testing

Now that we have lots of toys to play with for making cool portals...

Don't forget, that the majority of views of Wikipedia these days are from mobile devices. We need to make certain that portals display well on those. So, remember to check your work on portals in mobile view mode...

To see a portal in mobile view mode, insert a ".m" into a portal's url, after "en", like this:

If you discover problems in a portal you can't fix, report them on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design.

Until next time...

Have fun.    — The Transhumanist   01:01, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello Wumbolo, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

Overall the June backlog drive was a success, reducing the last 3,000 or so to below 500. However, as expected, 90% of the patrolling was done by less than 10% of reviewers.
Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

New technology, new rules
  • New features are shortly going to be added to the Special:NewPagesFeed which include a list of drafts for review, OTRS flags for COPYVIO, and more granular filter preferences. More details can be found at this page.
  • Probationary permissions: Now that PERM has been configured to allow expiry dates to all minor user rights, new NPR flag holders may sometimes be limited in the first instance to 6 months during which their work will be assessed for both quality and quantity of their reviews. This will allow admins to accord the right in borderline cases rather than make a flat out rejection.
  • Current reviewers who have had the flag for longer than 6 months but have not used the permissions since they were granted will have the flag removed, but may still request to have it granted again in the future, subject to the same probationary period, if they wish to become an active reviewer.
  • Editathons will continue through August. Please be gentle with new pages that obviously come from good faith participants, especially articles from developing economies and ones about female subjects. Consider using the 'move to draft' tool rather than bluntly tagging articles that may have potential but which cannot yet reside in mainspace.
The Signpost
  • The next issue of the monthly magazine will be out soon. The newspaper is an excellent way to stay up to date with news and new developments between our newsletters. If you have special messages to be published, or if you would like to submit an article (one about NPR perhaps?), don't hesitate to contact the editorial team here.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. Insertcleverphrasehere (or here) 00:00, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals tasks requests: presented in the newsletter below...

Portals WikiProject update #015, 31 July 2018

Now that we have lots of toys to play with, it's play time!

Here are some fun activities to use our new toys on...

Fun activity #1: put the improved panorama template to use

Would you like to travel around the world? Well, this may be the next best thing...

Here's another fun toy to play with: {{Portal image banner}}

To see what it looks like, check out the panoramas at the tops of the following portals:

The task: There are many geography portals that lack panoramas. Please add some. Please keep the file size down below 2 megabytes, and keep in mind that you may find quality banners at commons: at less than 200K (.2 megabytes). Good search terms to include with the place name are "banner", "cityscape", "skyline", "panorama", "landscape", etc.

Related task: There are also lots of geography portals that have panoramas used as gaudy banners (with print or icons splattered across them) or that display them in some random location on the page. In many cases, those pages would be improved by displaying the panorama as a clean picture at the top of the intro section, like on the examples above. This works best with banner-like panoramas. Please fix such pages when you come across them, if you believe it would improve the look of the page.

Taller images might be better suited displayed further down the page, or in the "Selected images" section.

Note that {{Portal image banner}} supports multiple images, and displays one at random upon the first visit, and each time the page is purged.

Fun activity #2: install "Selected images" sections

That is, image slideshows!

Over 200 have been installed so far. Just 1200 to go. (Be sure not to install them on portals with active maintainers, unless they want you to).

The title "Selected images" reflects the fact that not all images on Wikipedia are pictures, and encompasses maps, graphs, diagrams, sketches, paintings, pictures, and so on.

The toys we have to work with for this are:

{{Random slideshow}}


{{Transclude files as random slideshow}}

The task: Using one of the above templates directly on a portal's base page, replace static "Selected picture" sections, with a section like one of these:

Selected images
Selected images

The one on the left uses {{Random slideshow}} (which accepts file names), and the one on the right uses {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} (which accepts source pages from which the filenames are gathered).

The above section formatting is used on many of the pages you will come across, but not all. In those cases, use whatever section formatting matches the rest of the page.

Note that you may come across "Selected picture" sections done with {{Random portal component}} templates. That template call is the entire section. Replace it with a section that matches the other sections on the page, and put the new slideshow inside that.

For example, in Portal:California, this code:

{{Random portal component|max=21|seed=27|header=Selected picture|subpage=Selected picture}}

was replaced with this code:

{{/box-header|Selected images|noedit=yes}}
{{Transclude files as random slideshow
| Culture of {{PAGENAME}}

And the new section blended right in with the formatting of the rest of the page. Note the use of the {{PAGENAME}} magic word. Plain article titles also work. Don't feel limited to one or two page names. But be sure to test each slideshow before installing the next one. (Or if you prefer, in batches - just don't leave them hanging). Report technical problems at the Portal design talk page.

Fun activity #3: upgrade "Selected article" sections

These sections, where unmaintained, have gone stale. That's because 1) the excerpts are static, having been manually copied and pasted, and 2) because they lack automatic addition of new entries.

They can be upgraded with:

{{Transclude random excerpt}}


{{Transclude list item excerpt}}


{{Transclude linked excerpt}}

All three of these will provide excerpts that won't go stale. The latter two can provide excerpt collections that won't go stale, by providing new entries over time. The key is to select source pages or source sections that are frequently updated, such as root article sections, mainstream lists, or navigation templates.

Where will this put us?

When the above tasks are completed for the entire collection of portals (except the ones with specific maintainers), we'll be more than half-way done with the portal system upgrade.

Keep up the great work.    — The Transhumanist   19:19, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Sarah Jeong DR

Hello, I have brought the unfruitful Sarah Jeong discussion to dispute resolution and am notifying you because you have commented on the Talk page since August 3. You can find a link here: Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Sarah_Jeong. All the best, Ikjbagl (talk) 12:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Discretionary sanctions alert

 This is a standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect. It does not imply that there are any issues with your contributions to date.

You have recently shown interest in living or recently deceased people, and edits relating to the subject (living or recently deceased) of such biographical articles. Due to past disruption in this topic area, a more stringent set of rules called discretionary sanctions is in effect: any administrator may impose sanctions on editors who do not strictly follow Wikipedia's policies, or any page-specific restrictions, when making edits related to the topic.

For additional information, please see the guidance on discretionary sanctions and the Arbitration Committee's decision here. If you have any questions, or any doubts regarding what edits are appropriate, you are welcome to discuss them with me or any other editor.
The next time you violate the edit-restriction at Sarah Jeong you will be blocked and/or topic banned. You can appeal the editing restriction I implemented at WP:AN, but you cannot simply flout it. Abecedare (talk) 20:59, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Deletion review for Sarah Jeong

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Sarah Jeong. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. — Newslinger talk 13:03, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

I've backed out your obvious WP:BADNAC. Please don't do that again. It just creates a lot of work for other volunteers (i.e. me) cleaning up. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:08, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I had no interest in keeping or deleting the article, but I did discuss a small aspect of the subject on the talk page. Sorry for the mess, although my close was correct. wumbolo ^^^ 14:13, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
@RoySmith: thanks for wasting everybody's time by relisting the AfD, which was closed as keep less than six hours after you had relisted it. wumbolo ^^^ 12:34, 7 August 2018 (UTC)


  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:56, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: "an outside-coordinated campaign"? "incompetence"? "jerk"? "troll"?! Seriously? While you are uninvolved, WP:BOOMERANG can apply to you, since you're now casting WP:ASPERSIONs and issuing personal attacks. And then you propose banning me. I am willing to have a productive discussion, but your casting of aspersions, and personal attacks aren't helping you make your case against me. wumbolo ^^^ 21:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Try something close to this again, and you'll be facing a block or topic ban. Abecedare (talk) 00:39, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
    @Abecedare: sorry, I will be using more civil language from now on. There are borderline "exclamation" words but I'm not sure which are appropriate. wumbolo ^^^ 00:49, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
Your language was not the reason for the revert. The reason was the source and esp. the headline.
Fwiw, the article itself is a somewhat slanted but comprehensive documentation of the events. Not surprising given that the author was an established wikipedia editor (I didn't realize he was no longer around and missed out on the events that led to the departure). Abecedare (talk) 00:56, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@Abecedare: and the Daily Caller's headline is OK?! It's also linked in the template. wumbolo ^^^ 01:07, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
If I were dictator of wikipedia, I would just remove the self-indulgent press-coverage template from such pages. As for the linked Daily Caller pieces, I hadn't seen them earlier and they are not ideal either, but at least their headlines apply the adjective to the tweets and not the person. Not that that should be thought as a game-able loophole by any of the editors on the page! :) Abecedare (talk) 01:17, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
  • Regarding this removal: it would be best if you leave general administering of the page to the several admins who are keeping an eye on it; the last time you tried to help by NAC closing the first AFD it only created more drama. And do not warn other users of blocks under my (or, any other admin's) name. Abecedare (talk) 16:00, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
    OK, but what created drama at the AfD was probably relisting it. wumbolo ^^^ 16:04, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK nomination of SethBling

  Hello! Your submission of SethBling at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 21:45, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update, 25 May 2018

We have grown to 79 members.

Please provide a warm welcome to our latest additions, Wpgbrown,, JLJ001, and Wumbolo.

A lot is going on, much of it on the WikiProject's talk page, so be sure to go there and join in on any of the many discussions taking place there.

Elsewhere around the portal project, or related to portals, the following is happening...

New news template ready for testing

Evad37 has created a new template, with supporting lua module, to handle news in portals...

{{Transclude selected current events}} is ready to be tested in some actual portals. Let Evad37 know if you need help with the search patterns.

Noyster commented that "This is the best portal innovation since sliced bread!"

See the relevant discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals#Alternative to Wikinews.

Thank you, Evad.

Coming soon: Automatic article alerts (but there is a glitch)

Our WikiProject is now subscribed to the bot that makes automatic article alerts, but the subpage where they are posted has not been added to our WikiProject page yet because of a weird problem...

Featured portal nominations from two years ago keep popping up on there.

Please check Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals/Article alerts to see if you can figure out how to fix this.

Once that is remedied, it will be posted on our WikiProject page.

Thank you.

Note that, this will only track base pages, because to track the rest, we'd have to create over 140,000 talk pages for the subpages, and that just isn't worthwhile (as we're trying to remove the subpages anyways). Therefore, any alerts for subpages will still need to be posted manually.

New portal, still needs work

Drafting a new portals guideline

Your input/editing is welcome on the draft-in-progress of a new guideline for portals.

See or work on the draft at User:Cesdeva/sandbox11.

See also the discussion at: Wikipedia talk:Portal guidelines#RfC on new portal guidelines

RfC on new TOC layout for main portal list

There is a proposal to change the look of the table of contents at Portal:Contents/Portals.

See: Portal talk:Contents/Portals#RFC on layout update.

Deletion discussion survivors

Thank you to those who have participated in portal deletion discussions. There are still some editors out there who despise portals, and this comes across in their argumentation style. Wow. Such negativity. But, there is some good news...

Current deletion discussions are posted on our WikiProject page.

Portal space clean up

While portal detractors are trying to get rid of portals via MfD, we have deleted many of them via speedy deletion (per {{Db-p1}} or {{Db-p2}}). Essentially, they were bare skeletons, with maybe a little meat on them. The plus here is that speedy deletion is without prejudice to re-creating the portals. They can easily be restarted from scratch without getting approval, or be undeleted by request by someone willing to work on them. We have kept track of these, for when someone wants to rebuild them. They are listed at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

We are also removing subpages, the functions of which have been migrated to portal base pages. To see which ones have been removed, look for the redlinks in our watchlist.

There is also an MfD concerning some of these at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Redundant subpages of the Cornwall portal.

For subpages that need to be deleted, you can conveniently place this speedy deletion template at the top of each of them:

{{Db-g6|rationale=of subpage clean up – this subpage's function has been migrated to the portal base page and is no longer needed}}

Then an admin will come along and delete them.

Please help list the unlisted portals!

There are still 100 existing portals not yet presented on the main portal list at Portal:Contents/Portals. There were 400, so we've come a long way. Thank you! But we are not done yet...

Please list a couple of them. Every little bit helps. If each member of this project listed one more, it would almost all be done. Many hands make light work.

The list of missings, and instructions, are to be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet.

I hope to see you there!

Wrapping up

These developments make up just the tip of the iceberg. I'll have more to report in the next update, soon.    — The Transhumanist   00:37, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi (over here) from Wookian

Just noticed that you left a note for me on GorillaWarfare's Talk Page, and I thought I would drop by and say hello:

@Wookian: sorry if I'm intruding, but I want to say that no one said that "not all Muslims" is a good excuse. And have you read the #NotAllMen article? wumbolo ^^^ 07:25, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Certainly not intruding. :) I did skim the article, and am not sure what you mean. Since I have recently been topic blocked, and I'm not entirely familiar with how censorship on Wikipedia works, it's not clear to me whether my participation in a discussion on a Talk page is allowed to encompass a certain NYT editorial board member's writings on a certain social networking site, so out of caution I'm hoping to keep any discussion open ended / more general. Thanks! Wookian (talk) 21:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Wookian: Hello. Your topic ban should explain well enough what it encompasses. You can always consult with the banning admin. With regards to the "not all X" card, I find people using it as being dismissive towards the problems, instead of helping. If people help the situation, it surely gets better for everyone. Well the NotAllMen article explains what men do if a significant number of them assault women. In my opinion, instead of being defensive of one's group's members' behavior, one should be as transparent as possible with motives. For example, men should make women feel less uncomfortable (without manipulating them), and Muslim immigrants should apply legally, and if they have a clean criminal record, they will have ought to be accepted. Do we agree that isolating "bad" people from other members of a group improves the public perception of the group? (there is much more confidence in an arbitrary "good" member, even though there might be slightly less members) wumbolo ^^^ 22:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
I think I agree with you about "isolating bad people from other members of a group." In general, I believe in not ascribing negative characterizations to people groups that are not inherently associated with those negative characterizations. For the sake of providing examples both ways, it's perfectly fine to accuse the KKK of racism because that's their thing, it's what they do. However, it's not OK to make any kind of slur against "people who happen to have the particular skin tone of #RRGGBB," because such people's skin tone is not intrinsically connected to any wrongdoing on their part, as individuals. Wookian (talk) 22:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #016, 15 Aug 2018

Future portal tool

Discussions are underway on the design of a portal tool (user script) that will hopefully have features for modifying portals at the click of a menu item, to make editing them easier. It might do things like change the color for you, add to a selection, add a new section, move a section, and so on.

If you'd like to be involved and suggest features for the tool, please join us at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design#What would you want a portal tool to be able to do?.

Progress report: upgrade of portals

As new portal components are built by our Lua gurus, those components are being used to upgrade portals. Each component automates a section of a portal in a particular way.

The sections that are mostly upgraded so far are the Intro, and the Associated Wikimedia section.

The sections currently undergoing upgrade are: Selected image, Categories, and the Intro.

The Intro? Isn't that done already?

Yes, and no.

The upgrade of the excerpt in intros is mostly complete (there are about 70 non-standard portals that still need it).

Now we are doing another upgrade of intros in the form of adding a panoramic picture at the top of the intro, on portals for which such a picture is available on Commons:. Dozens of panoramas have been added so far, and they are really starting to affect the look of portals — the portals that have them look really good.

Regions are the most likely subjects to have panoramas, but a surprising number of other subjects have banner-shaped pictures too. Some examples of non-geographic portals that they have been added to are:

Speaking of pictures, several hundred Selected image sections have been upgraded to include image slideshows.

Progress report: design

The push for automation continues, with new components under continuous testing in the field. As problems are spotted, they are reported to our programmers, who have done a fantastic job of keeping up with bug reports and fixing the relevant Lua modules fast. I am highly impressed.

Construction time on new portals is now down to as little as a minute or less. Though not in general. If you are lucky enough to spot portals that fit the profile of the new tools (their strengths), then a portal can be complete almost as soon as it is created, with the added time it takes to find and add a panorama. Source page titles are not generally standardized, and so it source pages in many cases must be entered manually. Where source page titles follow a standard naming convention, portal creation for those subjects goes quickly.

So, we still have some hurdles, but the outlook on portals is very good. New features, and many improvements to features are on the horizon. I'll be sure to report them when they become available.

What will the portal of the future look like? That is up to you!

See you on the project's talk pages.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   21:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

DYK for SethBling

 On 20 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article SethBling, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that minutes after a world record was set for Super Mario World, SethBling completed a faster run, validating a technique used previously only on an emulator? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/SethBling. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, SethBling), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Portals WikiProject update #017, 22 Aug 2018

This issue is about portal creation...

Creating new portals

Myself and others have been testing and experimenting with the new components in upgrading existing portals and in building new portals. They have now been applied in hundreds of portals.

The templates are ready for general use for portal creation.

They are still a bit buggy, but the only way we are going to work the rest of the bugs out is by using them and reporting the bugs as we come across them.

I look forward to seeing what new portals you create!

Be sure to report bugs at WT:WPPORTD.

The main portal creation template is {{box portal skeleton}}.

Portal creation tips

After starting a portal using {{box portal skeleton}}...

  1. Placing a panorama (banner picture) at the top of the intro section is a nice touch, and really makes a portal look good. {{box portal skeleton}} doesn't automatically insert panoramas. So, you will need to do that by hand. They can be found at Commons:. For some examples, check out Portal:Sharks, Portal:Cheese, and Portal:Florence
  2. The search term provided in the Did you know? and In the news sections is very basic and rarely matches anything. It is best to replace that term with multiple search arguments, if possible (separate each argument with a pipe character). For example, in Portal:Capital punishment, see Searches in templates use Lua search notation.
  3. Check the In the news and Did you know? sections for mismatches. That is, sometimes entries come up that shouldn't be displayed. If there are any, refine the search strings further, so they don't return such results.
  4. Finish each portal you've created before creating a new one. We don't want unfinished portals sitting around.

Need a laugh?

Check out the Did you know? section on Portal:Determinism.    — The Transhumanist   02:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, and thanks for contributing to DYK. Your nomination has been marked for closure by another user as there area issues with the hooks you have proposed and you have been unable so far to come up with new ones. Please suggest new hooks on the nomination page promptly, otherwise the nomination will be closed. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:24, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: you can close the nomination. A question: can it be reopened after the article is brought to GA status? wumbolo ^^^ 07:48, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

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Hi. You relisted Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas More, Lord High Chancellor of England, although since sources were added it seems to have had a "snow" reaction and one struck delete. Please have another look at the comments, and maybe consider reversing your relisting in favor of a 'Keep'. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:58, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: AFAIK relists can't and don't have to be reversed. If there are no further comments, I will close it within 24 hours. wumbolo ^^^ 15:39, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

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Done. That probably going to be globally blocked. Doug Weller talk 20:26, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: also needs to be blocked. immediately. wumbolo ^^^ 20:48, 27 August 2018 (UTC) all already done
That one was globally blocked after you posted. Doug Weller talk 09:51, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

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Attn: WikiGnomes

WikiProject Portals has a fun task for you...

There are lots of new portals.


Not a few.


So, it's time for another round of "These are not listed yet".

Instructions and a list of the portals that have not been listed yet are included at that link.

List as many as you have time for, and pick away at the list at your leisure. Every single entry helps.

This is an especially fun task, because you get to browse the new portals while you are working on it.


Dive right in. ;)

And of course...

...have fun!    — The Transhumanist   22:49, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pacific Coast Association of Magicians

Hi! You've closed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pacific Coast Association of Magicians without any discussion of how you believe that the association meets our notability guidelines for organisations, or why (since it obviously doesn't) those guidelines should be ignored in this case. Would you perhaps undo your close and leave it to someone with a better understanding of those matters to close the discussion? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:43, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Justlettersandnumbers: Sorry, I misread your comments at the AfD. I thought it was uncontroversial. Thanks for bringing this to my attention; I will undo the closure and leave it to someone else to close or relist. wumbolo ^^^ 10:48, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Youth League U15

Can you please help me to get back the contents of my article Youth League U15 Please sir Abhishe78 (talk) 09:24, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@Abhishe78: I don't think Sandstein would be willing to do that. And if Sandstein doesn't, it's better that you stop going around asking everyone. wumbolo ^^^ 09:38, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

September 2018

Your recent editing history at White genocide conspiracy theory shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

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@Bradv: you're edit warring in contradiction to two policies: WP:NOCON and WP:BLP. It would be best if you self reverted. wumbolo ^^^ 18:03, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
How can you possibly claim to have consensus for your wholesale removal of content and references from the article? And exactly which part of that 9k deletion is a BLP violation? Bring it up on the talk page. Bradv 18:09, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
I didn't claim to have consensus. But you didn't read WP:NOCON. wumbolo ^^^ 18:38, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
And exactly which part of that 9k deletion is a BLP violation? the part where you restore BLP content sourced to unreliable or poorly reliable sources. wumbolo ^^^ 18:39, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
If there's a BLP violation in there I'll be happy to help you remove it. Please be specific. Bradv 18:47, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
@Bradv: All of it is a BLP violation. BLP content can't be sourced to unreliable sources and opinion pieces. Even if the sources are attributed, the inclusion of the content is still not warranted. wumbolo ^^^ 18:51, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
The whole article? Bradv 18:54, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
The whole content I removed, except if covered by something else in my edit summary. But nearly all of the content I removed. wumbolo ^^^ 18:57, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
As I said, I'll happily help you correct any blp issues on that page, as would many other editors, but it would be helpful if you gave specific information. I've already made two corrections based on poor sourcing (Berg and Whitaker), but I really don't see any other major problems. Perhaps you don't want my help — that's fine too. Bradv 19:05, 3 September 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #018, 04 Sept 2018

Bug hunt!

As you know, portals are now supported by a number of new templates, which are in turn supported by some new Lua modules.

Those templates and modules are being put to the test, in the new portals that have been created since this WikiProject rebooted, plus a number of existing portals that have been revamped.

The new portals, and revamped ones, can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Please browse the new portals at your leisure, and report any and all problems that you spot. Post bug and other portal problem reports at WT:WPPORTD. Please report bugs, quirks, awkward aspects, or anything weird or off that you notice. Compliments and suggestions are also welcome. :)

When you report a bug, please indicate the portal's name, the section that the problem appeared in, and the name of the article appearing (first) in the section with the problem. Most problems will likely be encountered in the Selected general articles" section, due to quirks in a displayed article's wikicode that the lua modules don't handle yet. Your help in spotting those is of utmost value. Thank you.

Don't delete portal subpages just yet

For portals that have been converted to the single-page design, we are not deleting their subpages at this time, because we are working on ways to harvest the data from those pages. For example, the Selected picture subpages include filenames and captions that would be valuable for the image slideshows. Please don't delete portal subpages, for now. They'll be slated for d-batch speedy deletion after harvesting. Thank you.

Development notes

We are currently testing a feature added to {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} that allows it to accept both sourcepages and filenames. Courtesy of Evad37. This will pave the way for harvesting files and their captions from portal subpages, for use in image slideshows.

We need your help

The bulk of the work is being done by a handful of editors. But we can't do it all. We need help with spotting bugs, refining the search parameters in new/revamped portals (in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections), adding images to slideshows for a broader selection (they default to showing the images on the root article page but are capable of showing so much more), adding panoramic pictures at the top of the intro section of region portals (cities, counties, states, provinces, countries, continents, and other regions), to name but a few task types.

It is rewarding to be a part of the growing portal phenomenon. And you get to see its expansion and refinement up close.

Feel free to join in on the fun. ;)

Thank you,    — The Transhumanist   06:58, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

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September 2018

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