Dockside CasinosEdit

I am afraid I have to respectfully disagree with your assumption that the term "Dockside Casinos" does not apply. I would agree that the casinos on the coast are not necessarily over water anymore but those exceptions to the rule that are on land are still required to be within and control 750 feet of contiguous land to the water, hence "dockside". Also, these casinos are still empowered by and regulated under all the laws that govern the other dockside casinos along the MS River and on the Coast and as such should be held separate from the other land-based casinos that are tribally owned. Perhaps the term "Waterfront Casinos" is more accurate, but if you where to Google "dockside gambling" or "dockside casino" you would find that it is an industry term for the many casinos that several states allow to operate, just not on their soil. MS has a few exceptions to that rule but I do not feel that strips the casinos of their identity.

Perhaps a note in the history that recognizes that some casinos came on-shore following Katrina would clear up any confusion.

On the other thing, I asked Bill, the webmaster of the Gulfport site if I could use his text as a jumping off point: he said it was cool.

Cheers Mikemiller10 (talk) 22:09, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

ThanksEdit

Hi Woodlot: Many thanks for deleting the vandalism from my user page on 7 May 2011. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

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Good job on Mississippi Armed Forces Museum and your other articles. --Pmsyyz (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Edmund RichardsonEdit

In your recent Richardson article, please clarify a point that I am a bit confused about. You state: “In 1868, Richardson exploited this abundance of labor by striking a deal with Federal authorities in Mississippi (still under the rule of postwar Reconstruction), to use ex-slaves to work his farms in the Mississippi-Yazoo Delta.[4] Richardson agreed to provide supervisory guards and to treat the convicts well by providing food and clothing.” Are these ex-slaves that were also convicts—ex-slave convicts? I guess the implication is that Richardson did not use white prisoners.

Thanks for your interesting and well-done article. Regards, Pinethicket (talk) 16:37, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Good point. The term "convicts" was, perhaps, too broad. I have replaced it with the term "ex-slaves". Woodlot (talk) 17:55, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

National Register Harrison CountyEdit

Howdy. I noticed you changed the date for the delisting of the Brielmaier House due to Katrina destruction. This leads to a conundrum. The site is definitely on the delisting list back in 1995 as well, and I haven't yet found a relisting date for it. Do you know if the house was moved sometime in the early 90s? Thanks, 25or6to4 (talk) 01:30, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

I see what you mean. I thought I was just correcting a typo on the delisting date, which I found on this Mississippi Department of Archives and History website: http://www.apps.mdah.ms.gov/Public/prop.aspx?id=9796&view=facts&y=738
You are correct, the house was moved: "...Constructed in 1895, the Brielmaier House was listed in the National Register of Historic Places on May 18, 1984, as part of the Historic Resources of Biloxi multiple resource nomination. At that time, the house was located at 436 Main Street...In July 1986, the building was moved approximately three-and-one-half blocks south, at which time it was automatically delisted from the National Register..."
There is a National Register of Historic Places Registration Form dated May 22, 1995, but it was never signed by the National Park Service. http://www.apps.mdah.ms.gov/nom/prop/9796.pdf Woodlot (talk) 13:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
The following notation appears on page 14 of the 1995 Registration Form: "...An individual nomination was filed in 1995 and the (Brielmaier) house was listed individually on 9 Sept 1995...The house was destroyed on August 29, 2005 by Hurricane Katrina and should be delisted. Signed 5-19-2008." Woodlot (talk) 20:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the link! I went ahead and did some updates to the list. 25or6to4 (talk) 21:04, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

NRHP in Lauderdale CountyEdit

Thanks for adding those pictures to the Lauderdale County, MS list. I had actually already seen them (and was about to upload a few), but I was unsure if they had been released under the correct license for use on Wikipedia. I am currently in the middle of an email conversation with a staffer at MDAH to find out if the images are useable, and it appears as if they will add a specific license to the pictures in the near future. Did you double check with MDAH to make sure these are in public domain, or did you just assume?--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 18:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)

I relied on a statement in the Mississippi Department of Archives and History Policy for Products, Services and Fees, which read in part: MDAH will produce digital images only from items held in the public domain or from copyrighted items for which permission to digitize has been obtained from the copyright owner(s). Since the NRHP Nomination Forms were digitized on the MDAH website, the use of the images seemed to fall within that policy statement. I would concur that a "specific license" from MDAH to use the photos would be more appropriate. Woodlot (talk) 20:36, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Ah ok I was not aware of that statement. I did see that the database of historic sites itself has a manner in which to cite the database (suggesting the pictures are available for use), but I didn't go to the MDAH homepage. I'll continue talking to the staffer there, and hopefully they'll put something up. It appears that these are fine, though, so I went ahead and uploaded File:Lacy Homestead.jpg from the database, which I put in the article I created earlier today about Lacy Homestead.
Just curious.. are you from Mississippi? I was born in the Meridian/Lauderdale County area.--Dudemanfellabra (talk) 20:55, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm in south MS. Thanks for pursuing confirmation with MDAH staff concerning use of their digital archives. You are to be commended for your NRHP efforts on Wikipedia, to include photographing a multitude of historical places. Woodlot (talk) 12:44, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Mississippi Department of Archives and History imagesEdit

The copyright status of Mississippi Department of Archives and History has turned out to be a bit confusing. You might wish to read the text at commons:COM:ON#2010071210046496 since you have uploaded quite a lot of those images. --Stefan2 (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

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Source information, My own work, was added to File:EBStapp.jpg. Woodlot (talk) 12:19, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

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Yes, it's a rather blatant example of attempting to ignore WP:UNCENSORED. It tells the reader "We're doing our best to prevent this information from appearing on this list". Any rules that forbid members of a given organization, fraternity, or religion to show a name or image do not apply to Wikipedia because Wikipedia is not a member of those organizations, so the National Park Service rules that prohibit its employees from showing images of these sites are not applicable here. Nyttend backup (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

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You know, I thought they may have been Mule Deer too, but I saw their white behinds and thought of the white tailed deer. They were far away so I couldnt get that great of a look at them, and I am not a hunter. So if you say that they are mule deer, you can go ahead and remove the image. I will upload a new one with the appropriate info. Thanks for letting me know.--The Old Pueblo (talk) 21:55, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

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Hi Woodlot, thank you for checking the spelling and punctuation of Uppspretta. English is not my maternal language, so I'm glad with any correction you can find. Have a nice day! Ymnes (talk) 12:37, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

Mind have a look and fix some spelling mistakes in an article?Edit

Hello, I spotted you few days ago and wanted to ask if you would mind to search for any spelling or grammer mistakes here: Draft:Palestinian workers in Israel? Thanks. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:17, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Bolter21: I went through your "draft" for spell errors and offered some edit suggestions. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 11:13, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks for catching footware/wear. Pattens though is the correct term, not patterns. Have a look at Patten (shoe) were you'll see the derivation is probably from pate through patyns to the modern patten. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 17:03, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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French destroyer Surcouf (D621)Edit

I am the person who (in "Major modification", October 30, 2016 at 4:12 p.m.) added the text:

"In order to install an Operations center and housings for an admiral and his staff, the forward 57mm mount was removed (extending forward the bridge) and the triple backward (long-)torpedo launchers were disembarked (replaced by housing)."

On November 4, 2016 (at 11:45 am) you request a clarification on this statement. Here it is: on the destroyers of this class, there were four banks of three 550-mm torpedo tubes capable of launching both anti-submarine homing torpedoes and anti-ship.

The "banks of three 550-mm torpedo tubes" were of two kinds: on forward, two banks of "short" tubes (for 4.50 meters torpedoes - anti-submarine); on rear two banks of "lengthy" tubes for 7.50 meters torpedoes against surface ships. All-caliber 550 mm. These banks for "lengthy" torpedoes are thoser which have been disembarked in order to install rear staff accommodations.

Perhaps this is a translation issue: confusion between "long" and "length / lengthy"?

To make it more clear ( "clarification"), it would be better to use the term "triple backward (length-)torpedo launchers" (or "triple backward (lengthy-)torpedo launchers" ?), and perhaps it would be more explicit in the "Design and Construction" section and in the Infobox ship characteristics?

--Fondudaviation (talk) 22:43, 5 November 2016 (UTC)

My response is posted on your Talk Page. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 11:04, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Hi Woodlot, Thanks for your reply and your words "Nice article."
You now well understand the meaning of (long-) torpedo tube!
  • For "triple backward" I maybe wrong (as you have discovered, English is not my native language);
I would want to talk at the same time/together :
    • about configuration Triple of the platforms (three tubes on each "bank" — but even "bank" seems a misnomer for "platform/rig (?)")
    • about Positioning of these platforms (on the back of the boat, behind the short tubes — those which are located towards the middle of the boat).
  • How better to explain the "back" position of removed platforms? Is "Backward" not the right adverb?
  • Other than that, I agree with your proposal. I make corrections (text and infobox).
Hi Woodlot, I think you have fully understood my explanation.
The torpedo tubes are actually groups of three on a platform (= triple), located toward the back of the ship.
A single precision missing in my explanation: where were mounted residential areas, there were not one but two platforms of this model, one on each side (one on starboard and one on port side).
So the text for inclusion in the article would be:
"... The two aft torpedo platforms were removed so that housing quarters could be constructed."
Moreover, is it my description (in infobox) of this armement convening for you:
  • 6 × 550-mm (22-inch) short tubes for anti-submarine torpedo (2 × 3)
  • 6 × 550-mm (22-inch) long tubes for dual purpose: anti-ship and anti-submarine torpedo (2 × 3)
It is quite clear and explicit?
Regards - Fondudaviation (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

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Woodlot, Thanks for your article on the Finkbine Lumber Company, active in southern Mississippi in the early 20th century. My father grew up in the Inda Community, near Ten Mile (Perkinston/Wiggins MS), and he asked me to look this company up. We were so surprised to see such an extensive and well-written article on the topic, with old photos to boot. You made a nostalgic old man very happy. Romaniceloqui (talk) 01:18, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

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Walthall School (Hattiesburg, Mississippi)Edit

Nice job with the Walthall School (Hattiesburg, Mississippi) article. I happened to be given notice of it because I must have created some article it links to. I see you included well-formatted reference for the NRHP document for the Hattiesburg Historic Neighborhood District; i was just going to amend it to include the accompanying photos, as in:[1]

References

  1. ^ Jody Cook (July 7, 1980). "National Register of Historic Places Registration: Hattiesburg Historic Neighborhood District". National Park Service. Retrieved April 29, 2017. With 21 photos.

Perhaps you considered that and chose not to, because there seems to be no photo of the Walthall School included. Perhaps if you're going on to create the historic district article, perhaps its a small help to have the full reference relevant there sorted out here. Anyhow, keep up your good work! --doncram 21:02, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the kind words. You make a good point about future articles, so go ahead and amend the reference, as noted.Woodlot (talk) 21:15, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Okay, done, as "21 photos from 1980", with other small expansion to the description, from my reading in the NRHP document (which is a bit cryptic). --doncram 21:39, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

National American Bank Building, and Louisiana NRHP docsEdit

Hi again! Glad to see you fixed up National American Bank Building just now, about a New Orleans building, including removing it from "NRIS-only sourcing" status. It happens I have been plugging away on Louisiana NRHP articles at a slow rate, using the NRHP documents which are in fact available, for almost all Louisiana NRHP-listed places, at Louisiana search site.

The Louisiana document system is a bit weird, because they scanned the NRHP registration documents and just saved the text sections, discarding author and preparation date and other stuff. Only for a few very recent NRHP listings do they have a full PDF of the registration document. But it is enough to help, for sure. I generally adapt the following reference: <ref name=ladoc>{{cite web|url=http://www.crt.state.la.us/dataprojects/hp/nhl/attachments/____ |title=____ |publisher=State of Louisiana's Division of Historic Preservation |author= |date=____ |accessdate=____ }} with [http://www.crt.state.la.us/dataprojects/hp/nhl/view.asp?ID=___ __ photos and __ maps]</ref>

Which for that building becomes this reference, [1]

with date of preparation assumed to be the NRHP listing year, and with no identified author. I have these notes recorded into the "Louisiana" section of wp:NRHPhelp, by the way.

References

  1. ^ "National American Bank Building" (PDF). State of Louisiana's Division of Historic Preservation. 1986. Retrieved July 8, 2017. with three photos and a map

Perhaps you could now incorporate this reference for National American Bank Building into its article? Please do! I leave it to you. I don't know why that item pops up on my watchlist, but, again, I am really glad to see you contributing, and hope you'll keep doing so! cheers, --doncram 20:56, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

doncram, Thanks for the useful reference. Louisiana's Division of Historic Preservation never turned up in any of my online searches. I have incorporated the reference into the updates on the National American Bank Building. Woodlot (talk) 10:26, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

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Hi, I just had an edit conflict with you as it looks like we were both sorting out the references on this article. Thought I would recommend WP:reFill to you to fill out bare references, its automated and will attempt to solve the entire article. All the best Aloneinthewild (talk) 14:24, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

@Aloneinthewild: – Thanks for suggestion, but WP:reFill is a bit too automated for me. I am done with references for now. Just a few left for others to convert. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 14:43, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

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My watchlist has been blowing up with your edits with the caption of "hide complex table", that you've been using to minimize the presidential election results. Cool! I Didn't know about that technique. Thanks.Jacona (talk) 12:11, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

@JaconaFrere: – Thanks, I would like to take credit, but it was user Sbmeirow that came up with hiding that political table as a way to 'clean up' the county articles. Woodlot (talk) 12:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
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Unfortunately I have to bring up a rather serious technical problem with these edits. I have no idea why it’s happening, but here it is, simply stated:

On Webkit/Blink browsers (tested in Safari and Chrome and Mac OS X, and Chrome on Windows), if Template:Hidden begin and Template:Hidden end are on the page, all of the sortable column headers in other collapsible tables on the page disappear. For a comparison, see the Santa Barbara County voter registration tables before and after the {{Hidden...}} templates were added. The same thing happens on Contra Costa County [1][2], Sacramento County [3] [4], etc.

The tables render normally in Firefox on OSX and Edge on Windows (the only other browsers I tested). I’ve checked the diffs and nothing changes in the tables themselves. It’s also worth noting that this is not restricted to tables in the same section, and it affects tables both above and below the {{Hidden...}} templates. See the "Crime" sections of the linked comparisons for the same effect.

I’m certain this has nothing to with your edits per se, but rather some bug in either the {{Hidden...}} templates or the Webkit/Blink layout or JavaScript engines. Unfortunately, as I said, I have absolutely no clue why it’s happening, or how to fix it. I just thought you should be made aware of it, especially as some of these tables make very little sense without their column headers.

Lastly, and this is making no judgement on your edits, the description for Template:Hidden says this: "Do not use this template to hide content in articles. This violates the WP:Manual of Style § Scrolling lists and collapsible content and WP:Accessibility guidelines. This template is intended for use in pages in namespaces other than the article namespace." I’m not quite sure the extent of overlap between Template:Hidden and Template:Hidden begin/Template:Hidden end, but this probably applies. Again though, I’m not making a value judgement on this; it seems to me that the tables broken by the template are violating the MOS themselves, so I wouldn’t worry about it too much.

I hope this information is useful to you, and I hope someone can figure out how to fix the template to remedy this issue. 50.1.108.138 (talk) 03:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Argh, I spent so much time writing this up and then checked again in Chrome/OSX only for the tables in my comparisons to render properly. However, if I Shift-Reload, it’s still broken, so maybe Chrome is sharing caches across revisions. I recommend loading the after examples first to avoid the cache issue. The live pages still have the error though, as do the comparisons in Safari. If you can’t reproduce this issue, please feel free to ignore it. It is very fiddly and confusing. 50.1.108.138 (talk) 03:51, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi 50.1.108.138, thanks for the heads up. I did not realize the "hidden tables" were causing problems. As you point out, 'table headers' of other collapsible tables disappear in the Chrome browser, but not in the Firefox browser; and those are the only browsers I use. Since you appear to be well-schooled in the use of multiple browsers, I suggest you report these technical glitches at Village Pump (Technical), where there are experts in such matters. I admit to knowing little about the technical aspects of WP Templates. My only goal was an attempt to clean up the County pages that were becoming rather messy and clogged with tables of limited value IMHO, as noted by Admin Vsmith, who has also hidden several of those 'presidential tables'. My thinking is that the 'disappearance of headers' has to do with how the tables were originally formatted, i.e. using 'collapsible' and 'hidden' formats on the same page, but I really have no idea. The only solution I know of would be to revert the 'hidden presidential tables' in articles where collapsible tables occur. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply! I'll copy and paste this over there, I hope they can fix it somehow. 50.1.108.138 (talk) 20:45, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi again, I reported it there, but after receiving a reply and checking my examples again, I found that the problem seems to have resolved itself (for me at least). Perhaps there was some server caching issue that has since been resolved. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. 50.1.108.138 (talk) 22:07, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

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Sotoyomo-class tugboatEdit

I appreciate your revision on Sotoyomo-class tugboat. It was in my best effort to clean up the page by removing repeated information such as ships owned by Argentina for example. Most, if not all of those ships were built in the United States and later transferred there. In essence, the same information is repeated. For example, instead of two sections for the same ship, one section entitled United States could show a brief history of the vessel, including where it was transferred to, if at all. This, in my opinion, would greatly ease the reader by giving them a detailed box. Also, I admit it was my mistake to remove the links. My edits were done on a notepad app, and therefore I forgot to add them. If there were to be any edits such as this in the future, this mistake would be rectified. Hopefully none of the aforementioned means any offense.

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@Dallas S12345: Tabular data are often used for summarizing naval vessels, such as in the Cherokee-class tugboat article. Just be sure not to delete the references if you revise the article. Also, refer to WP:SIG for signing your user name on Talk Pages. Regards. Woodlot (talk) 16:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

John Albert Pittman SR.Edit

You are removing information that has been added because you can't find the source. A private adoption is not going to have a source. I knew this man my entire life and the only child he has, is not his blood. He was adopted and he treated his adopted father like crap. At his funeral, he had to be nudged by someone just to put his arm around his adopted mother while she cried. Those are the facts. You didn't even know the man. You weren't there when the new station came to interview him. You weren't around when they wanted to do a movie about him and he said no because he did not feel like a hero, he thought any person would have done what he did. FactsAreFacts69 (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of One Night (2009 film) for deletionEdit

 

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Invite to RfC (Request for Comment) at Reagan article on Iran-ContraEdit

Hi,

You're invited to an RfC on the question of, "Within the section on the Iran-Contra affair, should we include the aspect of drug trafficking on the part of some Nicaraguan Contras?"

Talk:Ronald_Reagan#rfc_85A761C

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Ora, MississippiEdit

This is also new if you're interested. Happy to have help. Great work!!! FloridaArmy (talk) 02:34, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Also Williamsburg, Mississippi which was a county seat. FloridaArmy (talk) 02:35, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

Akane YamaguchiEdit

Hello. This article is too long, need to omit some unnecessary paragraphs, help summarize this article (and copy edit). Thanks you. Olascf (talk) 13:57, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Olascf: you have made this same request on dozens of User Talk pages today, which seems to border on WP:FORUMSHOP. Woodlot (talk) 14:34, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

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BOYCE HOLLEMANEdit

Hello Woodlot. Please forgive and instruct me but I do not see another means of getting this information on JESSE BOYCE HOLLEMAN to you.

See obituary at: http://stc.stparchive.com/page_image.php?paper=STC&year=2003&month=12&day=3&page=3&mode=F&base=STC12032003P03&title=Stone%20County%20Enterprise

See obituary at: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/22095290/jesse_boyce_holleman_obituary/

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