User talk:Smith609

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:12, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

... and eight --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:55, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at ANI concerning Citation bot

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is AManWithNoPlan and Citation bot. . HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 10:09, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Guidance desired

Category:Articles with inconsistent citation formats explains its purpose via {{Inconsistent_citations}} which I include, in part, here:

“ User:Citation bot helps editors to keep citations in a consistent format within a given article. If a mix of {{citation}}and {{cite xx}} templates are used, the bot will convert all citations to the dominant type (as they differ in details of punctuation). It will preserve the original formatting, in case it was intentional. However, in most cases, the editor did not realize that the added citation did not match the format in the article. Therefore, the bot adds a hidden comment and a category (via a template to avoid confusing AWB) to any template that it changes. Human editors should check these comments and see whether the citations they are found in should genuinely have different punctuation to other citations on the page. They should then amend the |postscript= parameter accordingly, removing {{inconsistent citations}}. ”

I had been cleaning up this maintenance category based on the explanation above.

Observations of what I encountered

• the category directly applied, may have been an early form of the bot
• two forms of the bot applied postscript
• incorrectly ‘fixed’ edits of the bot’s postscript
• the {{Inconsistent_citations}} applied by some editor to a CS1 in an article with only or predominantly CS1
• the {{Inconsistent_citations}} applied by some editor to a CS2 in an article with only or predominantly CS1, or another variation, bare ref, etc.
• the {{Inconsistent_citations}} applied by some editor to the article as a maintenance tag

Issues

• it appears from my incomplete testing that the bot no longer applies a CS style fix or adds the postscript
• the inconsistency in reference style within articles is much more common and covers many more variations
• these common inconsistencies exceed and outlast whatever original intent the category and template were intended to communicate

Questions

• How then should we improve the category/tag?
• Where should the conversation take place?

—¿philoserf? (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. Consensus on action to take would probably be best sought at Template talk:Citation / Template talk:Cite journal. Once consensus has been reached, you can request that the bot take whatever action is necessary at User talk:Citation bot. Hope that helps. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 09:18, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Can this bot help with several issues that have arisen from the implemantation of the module:CS1 on the Macedonian Wikipedia

Hi,Smith609 I have some massive edits that need to be done on the Macedonian Wikipedia, concerning now obsolete and redundant text in citations. Can this bot do this changes:

• remove all variants of this text from citations |deadurl=no, |dead-url=no, |deadurl=yes, |dead-url=yes, |ref=harv and
• replace everywhere |authors= to |author=

If this is possible it will be a huge help of not doing the changes by hand. Thank you Инокентиј (talk) 19:10, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

@Инокентиј: You're probably better using WP:AWB for such changes. {t · c · p · b} 19:14, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

• • Thank you Headbomb for the advice will try to study it and see if I can manage using it. Инокентиј (talk) 19:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Citation bot and proxied URLs

Hi! I just tagged you at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T240124 but I see you haven't been active on Phabricator recently so I wanted to make sure you saw my ping :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 08:55, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Starter kit for smaller wikis

Hello, and greetings! As part of a Starter kit project for smaller wikis, there is a work-in-progress guide around Bots & Tools here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Small_wiki_toolkits/Starter_kit/Bots_and_Tools. I'm reaching out with a few questions, as there is a mention of the Citation bot on this page in the list of useful bots section:

• Is it okay to have the bot listed in that section? Are there any concerns?
• Would you be okay with folks from smaller wikis reaching out to you for help, and would you be willing to list your preferred method of contact under "Bot owner contact"?
• Is there anything like a note or reminder related to the bot that you would like to add in the "description" column?

Additionally, if you have a suggestion for any other bots or tools currently on the list which should not be there and those that are not there and should be there, I would love to know about them—looking forward to your input! Srishti (talk) 07:45, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Efforts to make a port of the bot easier have been made. It is open source. The best point of contact is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Citation_bot AManWithNoPlan (talk) 11:32, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Citation bot has been indefinitely blocked

Your bot, Citation bot, has been indefinitely blocked by RexxS due to the following reason: Disruptive editing still removing links after request to stop. They allege that the consensus at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 167#Auto-linking titles in citations of works with free-to-read DOIs was ignored by the Citation bot maintainers. Just notifiying you. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  22:07, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

state of affairs. The discussion concluded the identifiers should link if free (like pmc). that is being interpretted to mean that converting URLs to IDs is wrong. Several people in favor of the discussion strongly disagree with that conclusion. Most of the links removed violate copyright. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Allegedly violate. Nemo 22:35, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

True, i just speak from the perspective of the bot being blocked for adding them. AManWithNoPlan (talk) 22:50, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Info related to CitationBot

Hey there! I'm an admin at SqWiki and I mostly deal with technical help regarding citations. I stumbled upon your bot after it being added to Small Wikis starter kit. Can you help me by giving some information as to what the bot actually does so I decide if it would be beneficial to ask for incorporating it on SqWiki? Another question on the same subject asked with easier terms: How does this bot differs from IABot and how do they cooperate together? (If they do.) I'm assuming you are okay with expanding your bot's functionalities outside of EnWiki since it was in that list, no? :) - Klein Muçi (talk) 15:24, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

I've not heard of IAbot, I'm afraid. A summary of Citation Bot's activity is available at User:Citation_bot. It would be great to facilitate its use on other Wikis: I won't be able to help with this but if you leave a message on the bot's talk page you may get support there. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 07:50, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Horizontal timeline

Template:Horizontal timeline has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Izno (talk) 16:21, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

translation-server adoption

Notification for a request to adopt the translation-server on Toolforge per adoption procedure [1]. -- GreenC 14:17, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Added as maintainer. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 07:47, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Scale row

Template:Scale row has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. --Trialpears (talk) 15:37, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Timeline row

Template:Timeline row has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 13:22, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Note row

Template:Note row has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 13:24, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Horizontal scale

Template:Horizontal scale has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 08:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Citation bot again. Thank you. Lev!vich 16:38, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

October 2020

Hello, I'm Firestar464. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Nematophyta, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Firestar464 (talk) 11:01, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Funniest warning I've seen in a while. Smith609, since you are undoubtedly wondering what the heck this is about, it's for an edit you made in 2007 [2], shortly after you started editing. Nothing like templating a regular (let alone an admin) for something done well over a decade ago. Meters (talk) 08:47, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

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Using your 3D reconstruction in my video

Hi there! I just wanted to let you know I will be prominently using your excellent reconstruction of Scathascolex in a video that is going to be out soon on my YouTube channel. I will of course give due credit as stipulated. Phrenotopian (talk) 11:10, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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		Thanks for operating the citation bot. -Shift674-🌀 contribs 13:56, 5 January 2021 (UTC)