SportingFlyer 20:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Teahouse ping listEdit

Hello SportingFlyer! I am currently drafting a list of editors willing to be pinged to the Teahouse to help out with questions which remain neglected because area-specific expertise is needed to answer them effectively. It is currently at User:Usedtobecool/Tea. You were recommended by NA1K for portal-related queries. I was wondering if you would be interested in being listed (for portals and/or any other listed areas). Being listed doesn't mean committing to answering all pings. The object is to have a large pool of editors, some of the most recently active of whom would be pinged at a time, with the hope that at least one editor would be able to respond during the brief window that a Teahouse post remains active. Please take a look when you find the time, and see if it is something that interests you or are able to help with. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 08:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

  • @Usedtobecool: Thank you, but I have minimal involvement in the project at the moment. SportingFlyer T·C 08:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
    Ah, ok, no worries! Hopefully in the future. cheers! Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:12, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Sports seasons / deletion of Bekescsaba 1912 Elore season articleEdit

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Demokra (talk) 12:43, 11 October 2020 (UTC)


I didn't get a chance to reply to your last comment before the AFD closed.

WRT Sullenberger, after going through the firehose of hundreds of RS saying essentially the same thing about his heroic landing, on the morning after that event, I found half a dozen, or a dozen, references to his career PRIOR TO the landing. He had been a senior figure in the airline pilots organization. He had worked as a crash investigator. He had been an invited speaker at conferences on airline safety. He had written papers on airline safety. He had recently incorporated a consulting firm focussed on airline safety. My conclusion then was that if a well written article had been written about him, prior to the crash, people would recognize that he was, at least, on the cusp of measuring up to our notability criteria. I would have left a keep on that article.

So, no, I reject your claim he was, that he is, a BLP1E. Clearly, no one who is played by Tom Hanks is a BLP1E. But even before the movie he was not a BLP1E. Even before the landing he was not a BLP1E. Geo Swan (talk) 14:59, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Theresa GreenfieldEdit

You said your piece at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Theresa Greenfield, and consensus determined that Greenfield is sufficiently notable for an article. Please stop re-adding a merger template in what appears to be an attempt to WP:FORUMSHOP yet another discussion on what has been firmly decided less than an hour ago. If you think ST47's close was improper, discuss that at the appropriate place, but don't try to start a separate discussion to throw away all of the discussion that just happened. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:34, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

  • @GorillaWarfare: I did not participate in the discussion which gained consensus on WP:GNG because while I participated in the discussion as a whole, it was not the correct place to discuss content. The closing administrator clearly noted that AfD is an option, and just because an article passes WP:GNG does not mean we can have an article, as WP:NOT supercedes it. I picked what I believed to be a less controversial option to actually discuss the content. SportingFlyer T·C 22:37, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
If you really think the discussion and close were improper, you can start a discussion on that, and then the notability can be revisited if such a determination is made. But don't force people to have the same conversation all over again when it was just decided. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:42, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@GorillaWarfare: Where would you recommend having a discussion for an AN close regarding deletion? I figured the merge discussion was the correct course of action here. SportingFlyer T·C 22:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
I would just do it at AN right alongside the discussion. Well, I wouldn't do it at all, but if you want to know where to do it that's what I'd suggest. GorillaWarfare (talk) 22:52, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
@GorillaWarfare: Cheers. I've decided against, especially since I've discovered there will be support for an AfD if she loses. Just a very frustrating experience on the whole. SportingFlyer T·C 22:55, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

List of universities in Zambia revertEdit

While I could really give a crap if you "improve" the list, doing so by adding unreliable primary references that are not independent from the schools is not going to help. The same goes for government education authority websites like As they are not independent either. Generally, the same notability standards apply to items in lists then they do to everything in Wikipedia. Also, the first explanatory sentence "This is a list of registered universities in Zambia" doesn't need to be referenced. As it's a clear, un-refutable statement of fact about the list. Just like "On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article" in WP:N doesn't need to be sited. Especially four times. If they are websites that are useful to the subject, but not being used as a refence for a specific thing, just add them to the external link section where they belong and will actually be useful. That's the whole point in it. Also, a list shouldn't be primary external links. It should be more blue links then anything. Otherwise, it's just a directory. So, there can still problem even if the entries are reliable sourced. While personally I'm fine with some entries being only externally linked, I don't think it is fine if there's only like two blue links out of like 40 entries and the rest are red, or externally linked. I don't feel like getting in an edit war over it either or having all the work I've done cleaning up the lists reverted just because you don't feel like following standards. Hopefully your reasonable about things so neither of those happen. --Adamant1 (talk) 19:42, 26 October 2020 (UTC)Other

  • @Adamant1: I checked with the school project before making any edits. The list is fine. I do plan to look at other lists where you've removed valid list items under the guise of improvement. Please do not interact with me on my talk page any further. If you wish to discuss an article's content, I am happy to engage you on the talk page of that particular article. SportingFlyer T·C 19:51, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
SportingFlyer, don't take me commenting on your talk page as a slight or anything. It's merely an attempt to work things out in a civil manor before they needlessly escalate. If your going to "look over" the other lists I edited, which seems like WP:WIKIHOUNDING, then this is a personal problem between us and not something to do with any particular article. As such, I assume a persons talk page is the correct place to discuss it. That said, if you rather have the discussion on my talk page instead for whatever reason I'd be fine with that. Hopefully either is OK, because I'm not talking about "lists of schools in African" on the talk page of List of universities in Zambia. As that's not what it's for. That aside, do you have a link to the school project discussion that you say you had? The last time I checked, Wikiproject's are not authoritative on anything and they can't over rule long standing, consensus based policies like WP:NOTDIR, WP:RS, or WP:LISTN. I don't think you saying "I talked to a Wikiproject" is a good rebuttal to me bringing them up either. Ultimately, your the one reverting my edits and doing other things related to them. Not a Wikiproject. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:01, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
Are you willing to have the discussion on my talk page then? If so, I can copy and paste it there. --Adamant1 (talk) 20:05, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation link notification for October 27Edit

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"Good faith" revertsEdit

There's nothing in "good faith" about saying your going to review someone edits which is clear hounding and reverting a bunch of them. Plus, if there was any good intent behind your actions then you would have discussed it when I tried to so exactly this kind of thing wouldn't happen. The guidelines are pretty clear there's two cases where the speedy delete can removed. If the article isn't promotional or the person improves the article. Neither of which apply, but the articles you removed the speedy delete from were clearly promotional and after removing it you just moved on and didn't improve anything. I have zero problem with you removing a speedy delete that I added here and there because the article can be improved. That's clearly not what your doing though. --Adamant1 (talk) 16:12, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Hamilton newspaperEdit

You mentioned that you'd done an on-line search of the Hamilton newspaper archives. Could you provide a link to that database? Thanks, Cbl62 (talk) 22:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

  • @Cbl62: I just went to the Hamilton Spectator and typed "Willie Thornton" into the search box, then I typed in "Tiger-Cats" and sorted in reverse to see how far back the online archive went. Surprised there wasn't a mention and you may have more luck with a different search. It's not foolproof but when I'm trying to save or research say African articles typically the newspaper websites themselves do a better job of finding results than the major search engines. I think he pretty clearly fails WP:GNG, but meeting a sports SNG while failing GNG is a time-honoured argument - perhaps you'll have better luck than I did? SportingFlyer T·C 00:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
Thank you. Cbl62 (talk) 00:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

WP:NRU nominations at WP:AfDEdit

Thank you for making these nominations, and of course it's none of my business, but can you slow down a bit since it's hard to keep up with all of them? Bearian (talk) 18:32, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks. Bearian (talk) 19:20, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Nice turn of phraseEdit

I like your recent "not-youth-sportsy enough" comment. I may borrow it at some point. Cbl62 (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Emmet House SiteEdit

Ah! Thanks for clearing that up. That article was really puzzling me, but I never made the leap to realising that the sources were talking about two different buildings. --Lord Belbury (talk) 18:46, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

  • @Lord Belbury: No worries! I was extremely confused as well so I went to see which edits I had made to it, it wasn't immediately obvious at all! SportingFlyer T·C 19:09, 20 November 2020 (UTC)


Question, what are the notability guidelines for college football coaches. I assumed since Liberty is a top 25 school their Defensive coordinator would meet this but if not please explain them. Brosenow (talk) 23:25, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

  • @Brosenow: He didn't look like he passed WP:GNG to me, but I wasn't going to send the article to AfD since college football articles are hit-or-miss. That's probably not helpful, but that was the logic I used when reviewing the article. SportingFlyer T·C 07:40, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

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