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Christian anarchism

Thanks for rewording the statements I made about Day and Maurin, you put it perfectly.

No worries. I have just made another word change, which will hopefully even further improve it. Let us know if you don't agree. --nirvana2013 16:56, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Society of Ethical and Religious Vegetarians

Why did you remove the link to their Web page? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 17:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I wonder if you could answer before deleting my question? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:58, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
The external link that you are referring to (which, just for the record, I added in the first place) I had already added in the main body text. If you feel that the two links are required, I am very happy with your decision. More links the better, as far as I am concerned, they are a good organisation.

The correct place is at the end, in an external links section; thanks for alerting me to the duplication. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 12:52, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Celestine Prophecy

Why do you want the image to be so big? The point of a thumb is that it's samll (and thus quick & easy to load) but can be enlarged at will; that's why we use them. Also, the large version overbalances the article. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 16:53, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

The reason was so the viewer could read the text on the front cover. nirvana2013
Fair enough — but as I said, that's what the thumb option allows. --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 13:56, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Kingdomofgod.jpg

I have changed the copyright tag from your text "Public Domain" to {{bookcover}} as it is the cover of a book. If you could source why it is public domain you could change it back... gren グレン 09:57, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Opposition to U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War

Thanks for taking the extra the out of Opposition to U.S. involvement in the Vietnam War. Uncle Ed 16:08, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

No problem --nirvana2013 20:16, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject Anti-war

From your user page and edit history I thought you might be interested in joining the new wikiproject; WikiProject Anti-war. As you no doubt know, anti-war movments and ideas have had a massive influence on world politics esspecially since the launch of the "war on terror" and the global reaction to it. Events like the Febuary 15th biggest ever global day of demo's are historic in and of themselves and well deserving of more attention then the currently recive on wikipedia. Also the project will aim to get rid of any redundent repeted information through unifiy the different anti-war pages. Hopefully we can achive ballance and NPOV. Hope you chouse to become involved. --JK the unwise 15:29, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Alt user?

Are you also editting with the IP 86.133.239.0? Just checking for the unlikely case that your comments are being unduely massaged. Cheers, Daniel Collins 22:52, 29 August 2005 (UTC).

Yes I am --nirvana2013 09:49, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Mahatma Gandhi

Hello,

I would like to clarify my point of view on my edits to the Gandhi article which you questioned here.

"God": this is the John Lennon problem, isn't it?

My intention was to describe Gandhi's iconic status in India as almost "God-like" and not to say that Indians consider him to be a God. There are some people who dominate a particular industry or part of society so strongly as to be almost God-like an icon. Still, if you don't see eye-to-eye on this one, it doesn't matter. I don't intend to re-visit the revert.

There is some edit that Gurubrahma questioned, but the link is faulty or something. I don't know what that is.

Most of my info comes from the information-rich biography of Sardar Patel by Rajmohan Gandhi, which goes into Gandhi himself deeply. This is a well-accredited book by the Navjivan Book Trust.

We suffer in this article from a desire to put too much information in. It gets confusing. That whole discussion page is full of crap about Gandhi being a racist and a pervert. This is coming from that controversial book by Stanley Wolpert, and really is not a good source to put quotes and material in the article with.

Folks like Gurubrahma and others have criticized some of my edits, and that's fine. But I discourage unilateral reverts without a proper time given to discuss the edits. There is one fellow who spoke insultingly of my work, and while I acknowledge my own faults, I won't give a quarter when somebody makes it personal.

Thank you.

Nirav Maurya

Nirav, I am glad to hear that Indians do not consider Gandhi a God. It would be most unGandhi-like to worship him and his words of wisdom as God-like. As Gandhi said anyone can follow the principles of truth and nonviolence, if they want to. --nirvana2013 16:30, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
Yes, I'm sure he'd see it your way. I personally consider him to be the 10th Avatara of Vishnu, but that's another story....I'd like to have your opinions and help on an article I'm constructing on Indian Nationalism. This is a big project, much different from just the independence struggle. I need folks like you to add more stuff there. Check it out if you can. Regards, Nirav.

cool cucumber

  An Award
This award fits u to a tee for the coolness you displayed in the deft handling of a difficult-to-handle user with a "holier than thou attitude" on Talk:Mahatma Gandhi and Talk:Gandhism apart from other places.--Feeling the force, Gurubrahma 18:20, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

Truth

Please stop adding theories of truth, such as the one below, to truth:

Truth is a statement proven to be or accepted as true, and which conforms to fact or reality.

Let's hash this out here, rather than having an edit war. Here's what's wrong with this particular addition:

  1. It is a particular theory of truth (and, actually, it conflicts with the other theory of truth you added to the introduction). No one theory gets to be privileged that way.
  2. It is a circular definition (truth conforms to fact; what's a fact?)
  3. Truth is not a statement.
  4. etc.

-Seth Mahoney 23:00, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

Please refer to [1] and [2]. P.S. Should we not have this discussion on the specific talk page for the article, so other users can refer or make comment? --nirvana2013 23:10, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
I've moved the comments there. Please leave Truth as it was until this is resolved. (Actually, add or change other sections, but leave the intro definition out for now - your stuff on bearers of truth is good.) -Seth Mahoney 00:00, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Problems with a user

Hi Nirvana2013, I'm writing to you as I'm unable to sort out problems with a particular user who has been editing with anon IPs in the series 70.X.X.X and claims to be Nirav.maurya on some talkpages and anon on other pages. While the style of edits is similar to that of the said user, I canot be 100% sure. Under the anon IP, he has made attacks on Talk:Purushottam Das Tandon and NPOV-tagged it. I don't have any problems with anyone tagging something as NPOV as long as they spell out the reasons clearly. Now-a-days, the edits of this IP are not so much of a POV issue but more of an original research issue. Substantial (in terms of quantity) additions have been made to articles or new articles created such as Indian Muslim Nationalism, Indian nationalism, Hindu nationalism and Hindutva. I neither have the time nor the energy to go through all of them - though I have been involved with him on Gandhism, Mahatma Gandhi and Indian nationalism. While I do not mind fending off the attacks he makes on the articles I regularly edit, my primary purpose, as I perceive it, is not that. I thought you may be interested in giving it a look and hence this long-ish message. His comments on Talk:Purushottam Das Tandon or my user talkpage may be a good place to start. --Gurubrahma 06:04, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

A "Spirituality" portal

Hi Nirvana2013,

Some editors have been discussing the possibility of creating a “Spirituality” portal. What do you think of the idea? RichardRDFtalk 14:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

Good idea Richard. --nirvana2013 16:58, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for joining the Spirituality project. I look forward to working with you more in the future. :-) RichardRDFtalk 23:22, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Page deletion

I page which is part of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Anti-war (of which you are listed as a member) is up for deletion. It is The Left and Opposition to War, you can see its entry at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Left and Opposition to War. It would be helpfull if you could add your opinion.--JK the unwise 12:51, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Spirituality

Template:Spirituality has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Spirituality. Thank you. RichardRDFtalk 17:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Gandhi Edits

Hello Nirvana,

I'm Rama's Arrow, Nirav Maurya. I'd like to know if you support the creation of two sub-articles which I just undertook. I was frustrated as there was no response to my debate proposals over two days, so I just did it.

Reply to Gandhi Edits Q

Hello Nirvana,

No there is no intended edit war. Modern Criticism is in the Leadership article. User:Rama's Arrow

I think it should be in the main article, as it criticises more than just his leadership, even if the criticism is by two magicians who make a living from hiding the truth. Bullshit!, a rather apt title to their show. --nirvana2013 14:28, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
I just think that the criticism should accompany the page where the details to be criticized are. I disagree that the Bullshit! addition is a good one, becoz this is an encylopedia where people will tend to take things literally, especially as many do not know Penn/Teller.

If you respond to any of my comments, please do so on my talk page coz I don't regularly visit other users, which means if they reply, I may never see it.

Jai Sri Rama! - User:Rama's Arrow

Gandhi Vandalism Watch

Hello again, I ask you to keep an eye on the Gandhi article. There were two major vandalism attempts made. I don't know how to request protection from vandalism, so I need your help. Thanks, - User: Rama's Arrow

Response to Post

I detect a "possible" problem with the tone: I never deleted the Bullshit! reference nor had any devious purpose in mind. My objection was based on the need for pure facts and not too much speculation on the article. If you wanna continue with the reference, or put modern criticism on the main bio, I don't have any problems.

I must point out a problem with your reasoning: if Bullshit! is indeed worthy of the article, any smooth-writing vandal can stick up any comment as a way to criticize him. Anywayz... - User:Rama's Arrow

Confusion in Communication and POV

My dear fellow, your two latter paras on my talk page were completely needless. I'm in complete agreement with what points you were making.

Your Jesus and man's imperfection comment are loaded with POV. First off, this is all POV to begin with. Its a saying and even though largely correct, an unproven saying. Secondly, there are 1 billion people who believe Jesus was more than just a man. Wikipedia must allow for that POV to make a proper N-POV.

Let me point out where there is a difference in wavelength: I wanted the criticism section posted on the leadership page as most of the points of criticism were relevant to issues of his political leadership. You "seemed" to believe I didn't want the page, and later did not want it central.

The Bullshit point was it was already a flawed opinion, so why should Wikipedia post a flawed opinion from Bullshit? There are more candid areas of criticism, such as from Savarkar, Bose, Churchill etc.

CORE: I don't know what it is, but there is a problem in wavelength. These are small issues, but you seem to misunderstand my positions.

Anywayz forget it...Good luck on other work. Jai Sri Rama! User:Rama's Arrow

Nirav, I agree my comments on Jesus are POV that's why I communicated them on your talk page rather than forcing them into the Jesus article. That is my point of view, nothing more. --nirvana2013 16:25, 22 November 2005 (UTC)

About a user

Hi, thanks for your msg. Ya, I know abt the user reincarnation bit. This happened after he called me "bastard" on some other user's talk page [[3]]. I've seen his userpage - I believe he is finally getting away from the road to perdition. I only hope he also starts signing with four tildes, uses edit summaries and follows wikiquette. Thanks again for engaging the user in discussions. --Gurubrahma 05:31, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

Noahide Laws in Category: Jewish Christian topics

There is a dispute over whether Noahide Laws should be included in this category, anyone with an opinion is asked to express it here: Talk:Noahide_Laws#Jewish_Christian_topics

Wikipedia Anti-war project, push to get a featured article b4 Xmass

February 15, 2003 anti-war protest, an article which is part of the WikiProject Anti-war, of which you are listed as a member, has been recently rated A-class by the Version 1.0 Editorial team (see here) This means that it is considered to be of good quality. The Anti-war project has yet to achieve a featured article but with a little pushing I feel we could get this article up to FA standards. To this end I have put the article up for peer review, if you could help make this a brilliant article that would be much appreciated. Please give your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/February 15, 2003 anti-war protest/archive2 or on the articles talk page. Fingers crossed for a FA before Xmass.--JK the unwise 12:58, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

best wishes

Hello,

my best wishes to you for Christmas, New Year et all. Looking forward to the future.

Jai Sri Rama! User:Rama's Arrow.

Income tax is not "direct"

A direct tax is one that is imposed on an individual or his property irrespective of events or circumstances; an indirect tax is imposed on the occurrence of an event. Although some courts and commentators have confused the concepts that underlie this distinction, income taxes are only ever imposed on the occurrence of an event - the receipt of income, and hence are not direct. Cheers! BD2412 T 15:51, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

  • Strike that - I'm going to research the issue more thoroughly, but leave it at just "tax" for now, as there are differing opinions. BD2412 T 15:54, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Request for merger reg My Experiments with Truth by Mahatma Gandhi

Hello Nirvana, it came to my notice that you were the main contributor for The Story of My Experiments with Truth. Unaware of the existence of this article (and probable because there were no redirects), there is another one on the same topic - My Experiments with Truth. I have suggested on both pages for a merger. Would like to know your thoughts. Thanks & Regards. --Miljoshi 12:45, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

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I have removed the photograph from the 46664 article. --nirvana2013 11:32, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, please add your source for this photo so that other users can verify it is public domain. Thuresson 13:56, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I do not have a source. --nirvana2013 11:34, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Quote

The quote you added "Freedom martyr", can i ask, where did it come from ? --Irishpunktom\talk 11:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the phrase. --nirvana2013 11:31, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject anti-war, Article improvement drive

February 15, 2003 anti-war protest an article from the WikiProject Anti-war, which you are listed as a member of, has been nominated for the Article Improvement Drive (by me  ).

It is an article about a day of much importance both to the history of the anti-war movement and to general discussion of the Iraq war. With a little work from experienced editors it could gain FA status. If you would like to see it improved please vote for it at Make "February 15, 2003 anti-war protest" the subject of an Article Improvement Drive--JK the unwise 13:15, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

Credit card debt

Hi, I was just wondering why you deleted the sentence from "Credit Card Debt" that said "It is the interest on this debt that enables the credit card companies to make a profit." Was it because it was POV? I included it in a modified form of the previous versions ("Credit cards not used wisely can create a lot of problems since credit card companies main source of profits is from people who are late in their payments i.e why some people compare credit card companies to loansharks") because it is a fairly important thing to say: it explains why the companies wanted legislation that encouraged debtors to pay off the debt instead of declaring bankruptcy, which is what a lot of the rest of the article is about. Not trying to start a fight or even necessarily contesting the removal; just curious. By the way, thank you for finding some statistics and removing the cleanup tag! Sophy's Duckling 03:06, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

I just reread the article, and it seems that you might also have removed it because it did not flow in the introduction. Do you think it would be a good idea to add it to the "political aspects" section to explain possible motivations for the companies' attempts to influence legislation? Sophy's Duckling 03:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

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I have removed photo from article, please delete. --nirvana2013 19:51, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

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I have amended copyright status and added source. --nirvana2013 19:52, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

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Merged ethic of reciprocity with Golden Rule (ethics)

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I'll post this same comment on reciprocity's talk page, and on Scott Ritchie's and on nirvana2013's, for their info and so either one can finish up this job.... For7thGen 01:29, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

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