Yo Ho HoEdit

What's funny...Edit

...is that I was dragged to ANI for the exact same thing you just did: revert an edit and then block. I reverted an edit warrior on a talk page who posted what I considered to be highly inappropriate material (slandering BLM), and then blocked them--and now they're arguing that I am involved (INVOLVED) because I reverted them and am thus an editor and thus shouldn't block. As crazy as this sounds, there's an admin or two that seem to think that a reasonable interpretation of events. Thx for the block--I had hoped that wouldn't be necessary, that someone would revert them and they'd see the light after reading my note. Drmies (talk) 23:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Drmies, dragged to ANI for that? That's silly. The person wasn't responding to any of the standard warnings and was only discussing via edit summaries. That's a clear no go. Reverting an edit doesn't make us "INVOLVED". My political leanings mean I shouldn't close am RfC in AP2, but I will block vandals and edit warriors all day everyday. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:12, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
I just had a look at your user page. Your INVOLVEMENT is clearly with that most tedious of American sports: baseball. I know an otherwise perfectly normal math professor who likes baseball, and who sometimes tries to convince me that that's somehow normal. I didn't know you'd been an admin for really only three years--I half expected you to have been one of those that simply got appointed by one dude, with another saying "OK". You've been here forever! Anyway, yeah, that ANI thread, I'm sure it'll just go away at some point, but it's always surprising to see fellow admins have such different opinions as oneself. Take care--you know I'm waiting for Monday night, 7 o'clock. Drmies (talk) 23:16, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, what's more America than baseball? Is the ANI thread still active? I'll need to check into that. From your user page, I can tell what side of Monday's conflict you're on. I'll be there for the ITN item. And plenty more baseball DYKs are coming. – Muboshgu (talk) 00:08, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Last I checked it was. Are you telling me you didn't recognize the God of Football Gods, the Man Greater Than the Bear and the Queen of Salem and Alabama's 7th Congressional District? Yeah, it's going to be a -- well who knows. My colleague is from OSU and I was totally ready to laugh at him for the whooping by Clemson--and then they put up a show the likes of which won't be soon forgotten. I know that doesn't rise to ITN level, but man what a game that was. By comparison, UA-ND was sleep-inducing. And how I hate Clemson. No, not hate--strongly dislike. Drmies (talk) 01:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, of course I recognized Sewell and Saban. I meant your Alabama biases were showing. It's cool, I don't like Ohio State. I used to root for Michigan when my friends went there. Congrats on the championship! – Muboshgu (talk) 04:54, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Muboshgu. I'm touched. It was exciting: I hate OSU, but my workhusband is from there, and I was not at all confident after what they did to Clemson. But Nick Saban is the greatest coach ever, there's no doubt about it. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 04:56, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
I was there for the lean years, as an immigrant, fresh off of this one, and couldn't care less about your football. Ha, I like to think I paid my dues. I'm still trying to understand how other schools feel about their football teams the way I feel about mine. Drmies (talk) 05:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, I hear Alabama football is like a religion. I was partially raised in baseball stadiums and the little league fields. – Muboshgu (talk) 05:30, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
It's really nothing like religion--it's much more important. (Yes, there's a t-shirt that says that.) ;) Drmies (talk) 17:21, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
I'll quote what my colleague texted me; I'll give him a DS notification for AP2.

By the way that game was rigged last night. In the first quarter we were tied and Ohio State was driving, then all of a sudden Alabama "scores" a bunch of points? It's ridiculous, total scam. Ohio State won by a landslide. We're the greatest team to ever play!

So there you have it. Ready for Twitter. Drmies (talk) 17:24, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, he's ready to Stop the Steal. I don't see your vote at WP:ITN/C. Gotta get the news out there. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:50, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Tough break on the ITN nom. I guess all the Bama fans were too busy superspreading instead of !voting.—Bagumba (talk) 18:58, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Bagumba, it's all a hoax! The nomination was RIGGED! People were voting twice under their maiden names and the names of dead people! We need a FULL AUDIT NOW! We need a DO OVER so that we can find out what's going on! – Muboshgu (talk) 19:10, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
See you at Four Seasons.—Bagumba (talk) 19:16, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Bagumba, hopefully the shoe polish doesn't melt down the sides of my face. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:27, 13 January 2021 (UTC)


Hi Muboshgu, thanks for protecting Marjorie Taylor Greene; unfortunately at least one account misbehaving seems to have slipped by, a sleeper that made one edit in 2007 and then only returned to Wikipedia yesterday. [1] Just thought you should know? IHateAccounts (talk) 03:50, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Hello User:Muboshgu. Would you consider it overkill for me to put EC protection on this article? I was planning to log it in WP:DSLOG under the WP:ARBAP2 sanctions. It's unlikely that people will be able to work out a BLP-compliant solution given the steady stream of new or drive-by editors. EdJohnston (talk) 04:50, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
EdJohnston, no, not overkill at all. She is the kind of person we have discretionary sanctions on post-1932 US politics. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:53, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
IHateAccounts, I'll take a look at that account. It may WP:BOOMERANG on them before long. – Muboshgu (talk) 04:51, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

Lauren BoebertEdit

This: see revdeleted content on the talk page. I believe, and Ohnoitsjamie agreed, that revdeletion is proper here. Drmies (talk) 01:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Drmies, I was just looking to see how valid that content is and a Daily Dot article is the best I can find, so I agree with RevDel. – Muboshgu (talk) 01:38, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
There's an arrest report (now revdeleted), and that's probably what DD used--but no conviction, no court case, no context, no nothing, and the whole story is a prime example of what not to include. Drmies (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Bru McCoyEdit

 On 13 January 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Bru McCoy, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Bru McCoy transferred from USC to the University of Texas and back to USC in less than six months? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bru McCoy. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Bru McCoy), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

"Impeachment of Donald Trump" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

  A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Impeachment of Donald Trump. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 13#Impeachment of Donald Trump until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. P,TO 19104 (talk) (contribs) 21:17, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

Merge neededEdit

Hi, the move to Second impeachment of Donald Trump has left a dangling talk-page behind, Talk:2021 efforts to remove Donald Trump from office, which someone has unfortunately pasted into Talk:Second impeachment of Donald Trump. SarahSV (talk) 21:44, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

SlimVirgin, I'll take a look. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:49, 13 January 2021 (UTC)


Can you please unban me from the pages Elliot Page and Talk:Elliot Page? I don't want to post there. I just want to make that red rectangle disappear. It's annoying to see that everytime I go to my user contributions page. I've been on wikipedia for almost 3 years and these 2 are my only bans. Thanks in advance! Dante4786 (talk) 16:17, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Dante4786, I'll unblock you from those pages, but only with the understanding that any further disruption there will come with a heavier penalty. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Talk: Jena Griswold UpdatesEdit

Hi Muboshgu,

I am making a few edits to the Griswold page. She is no longer married, she was divorced so I am removing that information. I am working to update her image right now to one that is more flattering, and I am going to add the following:

In 2019, Jena worked with the legislature to pass:

The Clean Campaign Act of 2019 helps shine light on dark money and requires corporations to disclose their political ads. The Lobbyist Transparency Act gives Coloradans better information about who is working to influence lawmakers' decisions. Automatic Voter Registration increases eligible Coloradans' access to register to vote. Colorado Votes Act adds polling locations and mail-in ballot drop boxes across the state, guaranteeing them on all public universities and tribal lands

And in 2020, Jena was known as the Dr. Fauchi of vote by mail and worked to expand mail ballots across the nation. https://www.coloradopolitics.com/2020-election/jena-griswold-the-dr-fauci-of-vote-by-mail-colorados-top-elections-official-on-the/article_1a3241b0-df28-11ea-bb8b-b707dbd2344c.html

Droui004 (talk) 18:47, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Droui004, hi. We don't use Wikipedia to make someone's image "more flattering". We use WP:RS to create a WP:NPOV article. And we don't delete valid sourced info. I have no doubts that she is divorced, but I haven't seen any sources that say that. If you have one, we can integrate it, rather than delete info. We can also add info on her tenure, like those laws. We just need sources. Are you connected with the Secretary of State's office, or the candidate herself? – Muboshgu (talk) 19:04, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Muboshgu, I completely understand!

I will look for more sources on the divorce, as for the rest here they are with sources:

In 2019, Jena worked with the legislature to pass:

The Clean Campaign Act of 2019 helps shine light on dark money and requires corporations to disclose their political ads. [1]

The Lobbyist Transparency Act gives Coloradans better information about who is working to influence lawmakers' decisions. [2]

Automatic Voter Registration increases eligible Coloradans' access to register to vote. [3]

Colorado Votes Act adds polling locations and mail-in ballot drop boxes across the state, guaranteeing them on all public universities and tribal lands. [4]

And in 2020, Jena was known as the "Dr. Fauci of vote-by-mail" and worked to expand mail ballots across the nation. [5]

Here is an image directly from the SOS site that would work well: https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/images/Banner/headResp.png

No, I am not connected, I am just a fan. She is my role model. Are these updates you could add? Droui004 (talk) 20:19, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Droui004, I can add some of these things later today, but WP:SECONDARY sources are preferable to primary documents. So something like this is more useful than the press release from her office. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:55, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Again problems with the vandal userEdit

Hello! User Dante4786 keeps vandalising the pages https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steaua_Bucure%C8%99ti_in_European_football&action=history and https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1986_European_Cup_Final&action=history, although UEFA recognise FCSB as the team which won the 1986 Champions League (European Cup). He is constantly focused only on erasing the name of Steaua from Wikipedia and destroying all those articles. https://www.gsp.ro/international/liga-campionilor/uefa-cupa-campionilor-europeni-din-1986-atribuita-lui-fcsb-619609.html (The 1986 European Cup, awarded to FCSB in the last published top). And he wants to hide the facts, to unlink this from FCSB!

He knowns the redirection of Steaua Bucuresti goes to the CSA Steaua București (football) but they don't hold the record. Basically nobody ever agrees with him, he does whatever he wants on Wikipedia. Such edits should be counted by a group of users, not by a known vandal.

Please take measures against this vandal, he was also investigated for cloning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Dante4786 I do think this page https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FCSB&action=history is full of his clones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F09:3A17:BD00:64B1:DD03:B5B4:6A0E (talk) 13:43, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

1. That's not how you report an user. Read the rules. You have to notify me so I can defend myself.
2. This is not the place to talk about Steaua and Fcsb. Use the talk section on the right articles. And no, there is no "FC Steaua Bucharest". There is "FC FCSB" and "CSA Steaua". These are the official (short) names.
3. You explained your last edit by writing "You are contesting my UEFA source". The thing is, it wasn't YOUR source. I believe that was posted by a different ip. You appear to be a new user. So congrats, you just admited to be the real sockpuppet and thus breaking the rules. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:2F09:3A17:BD00:5CB6:1A93:9C64:A379 -> the user posting the "source" vs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:2F09:3A17:BD00:64B1:DD03:B5B4:6A0E -> you.
4. And just for the record, I edit in good-faith. To prove my point, somebody vandalised the FCSB page on January 16. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=FCSB&oldid=1000749984. Guess who undid the vandalism? Me.
5. I explained my edit, the one which this user is complaining about, like this: "Until there is a final decision, we should avoid direct links to CSA Steaua and FC Fcsb. Leave it at just "Steaua Bucuresti", so everyone is happy. Also, I eliminated one broken link" I tried to be neutral. I went for the middle ground. How is this vandalism?
6. In December, a new user did what you are trying now. Report me on the talk page of the same admin: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Muboshgu&oldid=992821924 Is this also you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2A02:2F0F:3014:6500:B839:1741:925A:C6BF Dante4786 (talk) 23:00, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Don SuttonEdit

 On 20 January 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Don Sutton, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. SpencerT•C 05:42, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


Well, he wasn't appointed to head the CIA. Do you think now would be a good time to update and publish his article? And fashion and post a DYK? Happy to work with you on it. Thanks. --2603:7000:2143:8500:95A1:8911:C660:D7 (talk) 07:45, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it again. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:36, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
I've now updated the article to reflect the latest .. 2603:7000:2143:8500:5960:D454:3EF0:5627 (talk) 07:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Now-blocked editor commentEdit

  You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Tyler Chatwood. Vance Wyman (talk) 22:17, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Vance Wyman, what are you on about? – Muboshgu (talk) 22:23, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Marie Newman's vote totalEdit

I don't think noting Marie Newman got the lowest vote share of a Democrat running in a Chicago district is apples to oranges. For instance, Mike Quigley won the special election to succeed Rahm Emanuel with 69 percent in 2009, and Jan Schakowsky won her first term in 1998 with 75 percent. So I think we can note that her 56 percent was the lowest vote share in the Chicago area, especially considering it's the most conservative district in the city. HangingCurveSwing for the fence 16:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

HangingCurve, are there sources that talk about it? My thought was it's somewhat in the weeds and an apples-to-oranges comparison as her district is less blue. We could ask the masses on Talk:Marie Newman. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Sounds like an idea. Wouldn't have even raised it if not for the lower shares compared to other first-termers from Chicago, even allowing for the district being far less blue. HangingCurveSwing for the fence 22:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Hank AaronEdit

 On 22 January 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Hank Aaron, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Indefensible (talk) 00:45, 24 January 2021 (UTC)