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Germany part of the Spanish Empire?Edit

Since you are on thewikiproject Germany, i wanted to ask you something. One user has created several maps which basically hint that Germany was part of the Spanish Empire because Charles V was both King of Spain and Emperor of Germany. I find it absurd and I have also found many other mistakes. See File talk:Imperio Español Completo.svg on wikicommons. Barjimoa (talk) 15:15, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

I see you and Nagihuin have more or less reached an agreement, and the Holy Roman Empire is out of the map. There's (at least) one error left: the Northern Netherlands gained independence from Spain in 1648 (Treaty of Münster), not 1713 (Treaty of Utrecht). Markussep Talk 21:18, 12 January 2020 (UTC)


Good to see you're going through the German rivers. Badly need work. If you want me to db author any compile a list and I'll do them all in one go rather than template me individually. OK?♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:31, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, I'll let you know when I find some more! Markussep Talk 12:33, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Naming of French railway station articlesEdit

There is a proposal at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/France_and_French-related_articles#Naming_of_French_railway_station_articles where your input would be helpful. Colonies Chris (talk) 20:09, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Name of Hauts-de-France regionEdit

Hi, I'm the guy who made a recent edit to Hauts-de-France regarding the Dutch/Flemish exonym for that region. Part of my motive for putting that name next to the official name was to acknowledge the historical presence of the Dutch language and culture in present-day northern France, partially in light of French linguistic and cultural oppression of dutch-speaking peoples, particularly during the middle ages. That said, I could also be missing something here. I also saw that the French regions bordering Germany and Italy, among other places, had exonyms for those regions in their respective languages; therefore, I thought, why not the Dutch name for that bordering region? I hope this all makes sense.

In any case, I just thought it was worth explaining my previous edits and the motives behind them.

Thank you for listening, and please let me know what input you might have in regards to this page and other related topics. Wiscipidier (talk) 03:13, 3 April 2020 (UTC)Wiscipidier

Hi, my problem with "Opper-Frankrijk" is that it might be an accurate literal translation of the French name, but it's not used in the real world. I'm Dutch myself, and I have never heard or seen this before, unlike other Dutch exonyms like Elzas, Lotharingen, Normandië, Parijs, Rijsel, Duinkerke. See for instance these lists from the Taalunie, the official board for the Dutch language: and . The region was created just a few years ago, that may explain why it's not there. I couldn't find "Opper-Frankrijk" on the websites of the neighbouring Flemish province or the Flemish city either (that do mention "Hauts-de-France"). The Flemish government uses "Hauts-de-France", see If you look for "Opper-Frankrijk" in Google you only find Wikipedia and obvious clones. We should reflect actual usage, not invent it. There are better ways to show the Flemish heritage of the region. Markussep Talk 08:11, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

Carpathian mountains mapEdit

Hello, I have fixed your map but didn't want to upload it without your permission. You included a city, city of Vršac in Serbia, Voivodina as a part of the Transylvanian plateau which is a really old scientific classification. Officialy, it's the part of Serbo-Macedonian massif. I have it here: , and city of Vršac is on these coordinates 45.1201 21.3043. God bless you my man! Christ is risen! Kolikojerokoko (talk) 14:51, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, I see you made a new version of File:Mapcarpat2.png. Actually, the Vršac Mountains weren't part of the Carpathians or the Transylvanian Plateau in my last version, they were added to the Romanian Western Carpathians by Olahus. I'm not an expert in geology, but apparently in some claasifications (see File:Divisions of the Carpathians.png) they're considered part of the Banat Mountains (D3 in the map). So maybe you should look for some literature to support your version. Markussep Talk 18:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Drainage basinEdit

Hey there, thanks for calling me out on that. I was under the impression that there was a discussion at WikiProject Rivers that was still running its course (pun unintended) that could impact the fate of the categories, so I closed it conservatively, although I should have taken into account the suggestion for CFDS for that specific instance. I have gone ahead and placed Category:Dnieper River system to Category:Dnieper basin at WP:CFDS, since that did seem to be generally agreed upon. bibliomaniac15 17:18, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

As a general piece of advice, in the future if there's a line that is discovered to be more applicable to a speedy instead, as a nom it may be better to strike it out and list it on CFDS instead. bibliomaniac15 19:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
OK, I didn't know I could do that! Markussep Talk 08:21, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

German riversEdit

A lot of the German rivers are poorly sourced, even by German wiki standards and don't have many sources available in a search. We have stubs on small tributaries and even the parent rivers which are tributaries of more notable rivers are still short stubs. In looking I think we'd be better off having stubs on the larger ones and redirecting the smaller tributaries and simply listing them as tributaries and at least trying to write a few sourced paragraphs. Dill (river) for example we ought to have a detailed article on that and tributaries such as Aar (Dill) summarised within it. If we keep that separate, the German wikipedia article is detailed but poorly sourced so it's difficult to transwiki it and chase up the sourcing. I don't think we should have seperate articles on tributaries of the Aar too like Monzenbach (which I redirected). The granddad river needs writing properly first! I really think a great number of the German rivers should be redirected into a tributary list/summary in the larger rivers until they can be researched properly. It's difficult to find detailed sources on a lot of them.† Encyclopædius 10:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I don't think stubbiness is a good criterion for redirecting an article, notability of the subject is more important, see WP:GEOLAND. I agree that not all rivers in Germany are notable, I cleaned up several of those myself. It's not so difficult to find sources for basic river data, also for the small ones like the Monzenbach, see for instance , select "Gewässerthemen" in the "Themen" tab, and zoom in to Herborn. It's 4.5 km long apparently, but you already found that site, I see. If you search for "Monzenbach Aar Herborn" you'll find some more information, maybe not enough to call it notable. Actually I think that most of the rivers that have articles now are more or less notable, I already cleaned out the worst. Markussep Talk 11:22, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

A lot of the ones under 20 km in length tend to not have the best sourcing available, even the German wiki articles are generally poorly sourced. I couldn't find anything other than mention in some books or on a map for a lot of them. Some of the ones under 10 km look like the stream in my local golf course. In an ideal world we'd have a full article on every stream in Germany but it makes no sense to me having a short stub if there isn't sourcing available to write a good article and if the parent river is still a stub and unsourced etc. Priority should be the more notable rivers first and then if somebody can be bothered ot fully expand those and find enough info to write an article on the tributaries then expand them. Even with what you could find to write about Monzenbach, I would be surprised if you could find more than could be comfortably be summarised in the Aar article.† Encyclopædius 11:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, if we just take the Monzenbach example again: the article had mouth coordinates and location, which didn't make it into the parent article. I'm not saying that's a big problem, but before you start redirecting a lot of articles, I think it's better to discuss it at WP:RIVERS and/or WP:GERMANY. Then we may find some nice criteria to prune out the non-notable streams. Markussep Talk 13:39, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Rivers posted what I posted to you there. also alerted WP:Germany to it.† Encyclopædius 12:27, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

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Nomination of Nohra, Thuringia for deletionEdit


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