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Interested in Huggle? There’s an internal IRC in it :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 11:32, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


Seems you aren't familiar with templates :) The template should be transcluded, like {{User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/Userpage templates/Other stuff}}. There are two parameters included in my template: First parameter is the committed identity, the second parameter is the type of identity. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:04, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: I just wanted a part of your Template so I copied it from the original one . I didn't want to put your committed identity in my userpage . Kpgjhpjm 14:48, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: I also made a typo while typing which caused an error . Kpgjhpjm 14:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
No the template didn't include MY committed identity, as I've said, there is a parameter to fill in yours. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Specifically {{User:Abelmoschus Esculentus/Userpage templates/Other stuff|<!--Committed identity--->|<!--Commitment type--->}} ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 14:57, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Sorry my mistake , It is not that I am not familiar with templates but actually I misunderstood your Template . Kpgjhpjm 15:08, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
No problem. Happy to help. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:13, 18 July 2018 (UTC)


Hello, Kpgjhpjm. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tej Singh.
Message added 19:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

One can change his AFD vote before the AFD closes. DBigXray 19:55, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Bases on the refs there , the subject is notable and I have switched to keep . Kpgjhpjm 02:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind reconsideration. --DBigXray 08:16, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #014, 27 July 2018

Development of design continues, full speed ahead...

Excerpt slideshows are here!

Can you say "paradigm shift"?

Now, in addition to picture slideshows, we have slideshows that can display excerpts. Portals are not just for topic tasting anymore. Now they can be made useful for surveying Wikipedia's coverage of entire subjects. This gives a deeper meaning to their name. Hmmm. "Portals"... Doorways to knowledge.

Portal:Lithuania was redesigned using excerpt slideshows. Check it out.

For those of you who cannot wait to test out these new toys...

We have not one, but three excerpt slideshow components to pick from:

{{Transclude excerpts as random slideshow}}

For this one, you specify the page names where the excerpts are to be extracted from.

{{Transclude list item excerpts as random slideshow}}

This one accepts source pages from where the page names are gathered from list items. Then an excerpt from one of those pages is displayed. The selection of what is included in the slide show can be limited to a specific number from the collection (of the page names gathered), and that selection is renewed from scratch each time the page is purged.
For example, if you specify Template:World Heritage Sites in Spain as a source page, the slideshow will cycle through those sites. Now you don't have to type them in one-by-one. This greatly reduces portal creation time.

{{Transclude linked excerpts as random slideshow}}

Same as above, but gathers links instead of just linked list items.

Panoramic banners

{{Portal image banner}} displays a panoramic picture the width of the page, and adjusts its size, so it stays that way even if the user changes page view size. And it accepts multiple file names, so that the picture displayed randomizes between them each time the page is visited/purged.

Give resizing the page a try:

Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania.

You can now balance section boxes


Reptile types
Amphibian types


Reptile types
Amphibian types

Notice how the box bottoms line up. That readjusts even if you click the slideshow buttons.

The template used for this is {{Flex columns}}.

By the way, when you include more than one box in a column, any left over whitespace in that column is divided between them.

Box-header colour

You may have noticed the new {{Box-header colour}} template used above. It lets you pick the color locally (right on the same page). Before, this was handled on a subpage somewhere.

Testing, testing

Now that we have lots of toys to play with for making cool portals...

Don't forget, that the majority of views of Wikipedia these days are from mobile devices. We need to make certain that portals display well on those. So, remember to check your work on portals in mobile view mode...

To see a portal in mobile view mode, insert a ".m" into a portal's url, after "en", like this:

If you discover problems in a portal you can't fix, report them on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design.

Until next time...

Have fun.    — The Transhumanist   00:58, 27 July 2018 (UTC)


What I am written wrong now on Bhagalpur economy page Ayushkb (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Ayushkb: You said it has Pizza Hut , Domino's Pizza , etc . This is promoting that place (telling readers that there are these attractions there) . This is not allowed on Wikipedia. Kpgjhpjm 09:48, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Haemoglobin is the right spelling for an internationally accessed page

Hi, I understand that it is not constructive. The reason for the edit is to redirect Hemoglobin (which is a spelling used only inside the US) to Haemoglobin (a universally used spelling in medical journals and academic literature). Some automated process is not letting me to add content or make edits. Please address it and fix it.

- (talk) 09:56, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

Portals tasks requests: presented in the newsletter below...

Portals WikiProject update #015, 31 July 2018

Now that we have lots of toys to play with, it's play time!

Here are some fun activities to use our new toys on...

Fun activity #1: put the improved panorama template to use

Would you like to travel around the world? Well, this may be the next best thing...

Here's another fun toy to play with: {{Portal image banner}}

To see what it looks like, check out the panoramas at the tops of the following portals:

The task: There are many geography portals that lack panoramas. Please add some. Please keep the file size down below 2 megabytes, and keep in mind that you may find quality banners at commons: at less than 200K (.2 megabytes). Good search terms to include with the place name are "banner", "cityscape", "skyline", "panorama", "landscape", etc.

Related task: There are also lots of geography portals that have panoramas used as gaudy banners (with print or icons splattered across them) or that display them in some random location on the page. In many cases, those pages would be improved by displaying the panorama as a clean picture at the top of the intro section, like on the examples above. This works best with banner-like panoramas. Please fix such pages when you come across them, if you believe it would improve the look of the page.

Taller images might be better suited displayed further down the page, or in the "Selected images" section.

Note that {{Portal image banner}} supports multiple images, and displays one at random upon the first visit, and each time the page is purged.

Fun activity #2: install "Selected images" sections

That is, image slideshows!

Over 200 have been installed so far. Just 1200 to go. (Be sure not to install them on portals with active maintainers, unless they want you to).

The title "Selected images" reflects the fact that not all images on Wikipedia are pictures, and encompasses maps, graphs, diagrams, sketches, paintings, pictures, and so on.

The toys we have to work with for this are:

{{Random slideshow}}


{{Transclude files as random slideshow}}

The task: Using one of the above templates directly on a portal's base page, replace static "Selected picture" sections, with a section like one of these:

Selected images
Selected images

The one on the left uses {{Random slideshow}} (which accepts file names), and the one on the right uses {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} (which accepts source pages from which the filenames are gathered).

The above section formatting is used on many of the pages you will come across, but not all. In those cases, use whatever section formatting matches the rest of the page.

Note that you may come across "Selected picture" sections done with {{Random portal component}} templates. That template call is the entire section. Replace it with a section that matches the other sections on the page, and put the new slideshow inside that.

For example, in Portal:California, this code:

{{Random portal component|max=21|seed=27|header=Selected picture|subpage=Selected picture}}

was replaced with this code:

{{/box-header|Selected images|noedit=yes}}
{{Transclude files as random slideshow
| Culture of {{PAGENAME}}

And the new section blended right in with the formatting of the rest of the page. Note the use of the {{PAGENAME}} magic word. Plain article titles also work. Don't feel limited to one or two page names. But be sure to test each slideshow before installing the next one. (Or if you prefer, in batches - just don't leave them hanging). Report technical problems at the Portal design talk page.

Fun activity #3: upgrade "Selected article" sections

These sections, where unmaintained, have gone stale. That's because 1) the excerpts are static, having been manually copied and pasted, and 2) because they lack automatic addition of new entries.

They can be upgraded with:

{{Transclude random excerpt}}


{{Transclude list item excerpt}}


{{Transclude linked excerpt}}

All three of these will provide excerpts that won't go stale. The latter two can provide excerpt collections that won't go stale, by providing new entries over time. The key is to select source pages or source sections that are frequently updated, such as root article sections, mainstream lists, or navigation templates.

Where will this put us?

When the above tasks are completed for the entire collection of portals (except the ones with specific maintainers), we'll be more than half-way done with the portal system upgrade.

Keep up the great work.    — The Transhumanist   19:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Tuber (band)

Hi. I have noticed that you have listed this deletion discussion in the WikiProject Deletion sorting/Greece [1] (also here, in the WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians), but so far as I can see there is not such a poroposal for deletion. Regards, ——Chalk19 (talk) 07:16, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

@Chalk19: Hi , the nominator wanted to PROD it , so he requested speedy deletion of the page . That is why you cannot find the discussion . [2] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kpgjhpjm (talkcontribs) 11:48, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply. Well, in case of a WP:PRODNOM we do not list it in pages like the abovementioned, because is not a special discussion procudure (AfD) of the page, it is not nominated for a deletion after discussion (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion (AfD)). We may (=not necessary) list it on Articles for deletion or files for discussion, as it had been done. Any obections are included either in the summary, or the talk page of the article, when/if the Proposed deletion template is removed by any user whithin time. So, I think you must unlist these two articles from the pages WikiProject Deletion sorting/Greece and WikiProject Deletion sorting/Bands and musicians; anyway they are red links, they point nowhere, there is/was not any discussion to show. If you think that "Tuber" must be deleted after all, you have to start the AfD procedure. ——Chalk19 (talk) 14:17, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
@Chalk19:   Done

Can you please mention why my page is listed for Deletion?

Hi, I get it that the article has some buzzwords but those are the services offered by Locus. Can you please elaborate why my page is nominated for deletion?

You can see here . You are free to make any comments and can ask any questions to the nominator and everybody those who have commented on the article there . Hope this helps . Kpgjhpjm 12:27, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

changes to Lora (singer) page

Hi, I'm trying to update Lora (singer) page. I am a representative of her Label, Universal Music. Thank you! foolsandkings

@Foolsandkings: Please review WP:COI and WP:RS. Thanks, ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:23, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
@Foolsandkings: An editor with Conflict of interest should most of the time discuss on the talk page before making any changes to an article , which should also be supported by a Reliable source . And thanks Abelmoschus Esculentus for replying in my absence. Kpgjhpjm 15:11, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
User_talk:Abelmoschus_Esculentus#Edits_to_the_Beast_in_Heat. No problem :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:15, 8 August 2018 (UTC)


Restored vandalism It was fixed. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:06, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Jim1138: Eh , my mistake , As that IP was vandalising other pages , I thought that edit was also vandalism . I should have checked the diff .

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jeffman12345

Do not close reports at SPI, your own or anyone else's. Only SPI clerks and admins are permitted to do that.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:47, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bbb23: Understood , Thanks . Kpgjhpjm 16:52, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I Put a Spell on You (album)

Hi, Kpgjhpjm. Could you explain the reason why you reverted my edit at I Put a Spell on You (album)? (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello , IP editor , very sorry for that , it was a recent changes tool false positive , so it marked your edits as possible Vandalism . Again , sorry . Kpgjhpjm 12:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #016, 15 Aug 2018

Future portal tool

Discussions are underway on the design of a portal tool (user script) that will hopefully have features for modifying portals at the click of a menu item, to make editing them easier. It might do things like change the color for you, add to a selection, add a new section, move a section, and so on.

If you'd like to be involved and suggest features for the tool, please join us at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Portals/Design#What would you want a portal tool to be able to do?.

Progress report: upgrade of portals

As new portal components are built by our Lua gurus, those components are being used to upgrade portals. Each component automates a section of a portal in a particular way.

The sections that are mostly upgraded so far are the Intro, and the Associated Wikimedia section.

The sections currently undergoing upgrade are: Selected image, Categories, and the Intro.

The Intro? Isn't that done already?

Yes, and no.

The upgrade of the excerpt in intros is mostly complete (there are about 70 non-standard portals that still need it).

Now we are doing another upgrade of intros in the form of adding a panoramic picture at the top of the intro, on portals for which such a picture is available on Commons:. Dozens of panoramas have been added so far, and they are really starting to affect the look of portals — the portals that have them look really good.

Regions are the most likely subjects to have panoramas, but a surprising number of other subjects have banner-shaped pictures too. Some examples of non-geographic portals that they have been added to are:

Speaking of pictures, several hundred Selected image sections have been upgraded to include image slideshows.

Progress report: design

The push for automation continues, with new components under continuous testing in the field. As problems are spotted, they are reported to our programmers, who have done a fantastic job of keeping up with bug reports and fixing the relevant Lua modules fast. I am highly impressed.

Construction time on new portals is now down to as little as a minute or less. Though not in general. If you are lucky enough to spot portals that fit the profile of the new tools (their strengths), then a portal can be complete almost as soon as it is created, with the added time it takes to find and add a panorama. Source page titles are not generally standardized, and so it source pages in many cases must be entered manually. Where source page titles follow a standard naming convention, portal creation for those subjects goes quickly.

So, we still have some hurdles, but the outlook on portals is very good. New features, and many improvements to features are on the horizon. I'll be sure to report them when they become available.

What will the portal of the future look like? That is up to you!

See you on the project's talk pages.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   21:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi this is Gautam from Goodachari team

Please remove plot. We don't want to expose to public, hope you understand the situation, Thank you. Nanigautam (talk) 05:20, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@Nanigautam: You can make a request at the talk page to do that , or if you have any questions , you can ask here . Kpgjhpjm 05:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


I had to remove the template as inappropriate due to WP:NOTNEWS see the talk page for more. --DBigXray 12:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@DBigXray: Ok , Thanks . Kpgjhpjm 12:46, 16 August 2018 (UTC)


What happened to Septrillion? I see he was blocked but why??? TheRealWeatherMan (talk) 02:15, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Abusing multiple accounts. One of his "socks" - Snowycats filed a successful appeal to ArbCom and that account is unblocked, but Septrillion is still blocked. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Clarification - It's a checkuser block. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:23, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
@TheRealWeatherMan: Now you know why , I have already removed my name from his list of adoptees . Kpgjhpjm 02:27, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I removed his name in Wikipedia:Adopt-a-user/Adoptee's Area/Adopters ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 02:34, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

merge of Kenji Uedo to List of Marvel Comics characters: Z

i have merged merge of Kenji Uedo to List of Marvel Comics characters: Z as there was a discussion see talk page Talk:List of Marvel Comics characters: Z

In don'the see any discussion to merge it into the particular article you specified . Kpgjhpjm 12:20, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
OK, I was seeing the wrong page , thank you for it , I didn'the see that . Kpgjhpjm 12:23, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
I agree with the revert of merge. One needs to wait for weeks or months depending on the consensus to merge. 2 votes (proposer and the above IP) are just not enough. Excelse (talk) 09:12, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #017, 22 Aug 2018

This issue is about portal creation...

Creating new portals

Myself and others have been testing and experimenting with the new components in upgrading existing portals and in building new portals. They have now been applied in hundreds of portals.

The templates are ready for general use for portal creation.

They are still a bit buggy, but the only way we are going to work the rest of the bugs out is by using them and reporting the bugs as we come across them.

I look forward to seeing what new portals you create!

Be sure to report bugs at WT:WPPORTD.

The main portal creation template is {{box portal skeleton}}.

Portal creation tips

After starting a portal using {{box portal skeleton}}...

  1. Placing a panorama (banner picture) at the top of the intro section is a nice touch, and really makes a portal look good. {{box portal skeleton}} doesn't automatically insert panoramas. So, you will need to do that by hand. They can be found at Commons:. For some examples, check out Portal:Sharks, Portal:Cheese, and Portal:Florence
  2. The search term provided in the Did you know? and In the news sections is very basic and rarely matches anything. It is best to replace that term with multiple search arguments, if possible (separate each argument with a pipe character). For example, in Portal:Capital punishment, see Searches in templates use Lua search notation.
  3. Check the In the news and Did you know? sections for mismatches. That is, sometimes entries come up that shouldn't be displayed. If there are any, refine the search strings further, so they don't return such results.
  4. Finish each portal you've created before creating a new one. We don't want unfinished portals sitting around.

Need a laugh?

Check out the Did you know? section on Portal:Determinism.    — The Transhumanist   02:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)


I believe this is a good-faith edit. Why did you use rollback? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:03, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: I was patrolling recent changes with live updates and I was trying to revert another user's edits but the log suddenly updated and I pressed rollback on that edit . This is the fifth time this has happened . Kpgjhpjm 08:06, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Bad luck. Wikipedia's recent change feed interface is not good. Maybe you can click the diff first then revert? It will not be affected by the live updates. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:11, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Well the edit which I was going to revert was tagged (highlighted) as Possible Vandalism and all these edits I have reverted without viewing the diff and they in reality were actually vandalism. Kpgjhpjm 08:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
@Kpgjhpjm: You may wish to protect yourself against misclicking rollback by installing the confirmation script, see User:MusikAnimal/confirmationRollback. Note that using rollback without viewing the diff is dangerous. You can't rely on an edit filter saying Possible Vandalism; it is your responsibility to determine that it was vandalism. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:37, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Soroti Secondary School

Hi. I noticed you are not a New Page Reviewer, so you may not be aware of what knowledge of WP:DELETION is involved.. I'm therefore just wondering if you follow the results of AfDs you nominated (many users don't). It may help you with your future decisions whether to tag for deletion or not. You may wish to apply for the New Page Reviewer right, but you would have some reading to do first. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:54, 23 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about the Autism Speaks edit :c

The rollback was fair, but could I maybe rewrite and re-add the section of "Things you can do instead of supporting Autism Speaks?" It's cool if I can't, but it'd be nice if i could! Crystalchimes (talk) 13:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Replied on talk page . Kpgjhpjm 14:35, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
This is for your valuable efforts for reverting and protecting enwiki from Vandalism PATH SLOPU (Talk) 15:27, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
@Path slopu: Thanks ! . Kpgjhpjm 15:43, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

List of loanwords in Konkani

Hi! The reason why I attempted to perform such a massive edit on this article is because it's currently an incredibly dense wall of text that goes into frequent tangents about barely related topics. I believe it was necessary to remove entire sections of this article in order to bring it back to its main focus. Please reconsider my edit. Thanks! -- (talk) 06:52, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, you can undo my edit and start working on the article. Kpgjhpjm 06:55, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Cock Studio Season 11

I noticed that you revert the edit without any explanation. If you are going to say that my edit was not sourced then just so you know it is already mentioned in Critical reviews of article with source and lead doesnot need citation of it is covered in critical part. Nauriya, Let's talk - 25 August 2018, 10:41 (UTC).

@Nauriya: Well I was going to say just that . Thanks for that instruction . Kpgjhpjm 07:56, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Request on 04:13:28, 26 August 2018 for assistance on AfC submission by LESHAIGH

Hi, This is my very first attempt from newspaper articles and my own personal knowledge from Newcastle Australia Was hoping you could approve so other horse racing people could contribute to article as I am time short I have personally uploaded many original photos & images on Australian horse racing pages see my family horse 'Rogilla' Thanks Les Haigh

LESHAIGH (talk) 04:13, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

@LESHAIGH: Well cannot accept unsourced submissions, as I said the draft is ok but reliable sources are required for all Wikipedia articles . If I had accepted your draft , it would very likely be deleted at AfD or even A7ed . Kpgjhpjm 04:28, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Attn: WikiGnomes

WikiProject Portals has a fun task for you...

There are lots of new portals.


Not a few.


So, it's time for another round of "These are not listed yet".

Instructions and a list of the portals that have not been listed yet are included at that link.

List as many as you have time for, and pick away at the list at your leisure. Every single entry helps.

This is an especially fun task, because you get to browse the new portals while you are working on it.


Dive right in. ;)

And of course...

...have fun!    — The Transhumanist   22:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Pending changes patrol privileges

After this discussion, it's clear that you're aware you shouldn't be accepting pending changes for DOY articles without direct sources, yet you're still accepting pending changes with unsourced additions. What's going to change? Toddst1 (talk) 13:10, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Toddst1: Do you have to add a citation to the DOY article ? Before accepting that revision I saw the article of the person and then reviewed. Or you cannot accept addition of people with unsourced articles ? Kpgjhpjm 13:17, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
Yes, direct sources must be in the DOY article. Toddst1 (talk) 14:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
@Toddst1: Ok, I will try to follow it from now . Looks like you caught another editor about the same issue. Kpgjhpjm 15:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Steve Hogan page edit

You edited the info I added about Steve Hogan. He was my father and I just want to add the listing of my siblings and myself as his children. How do I reference that? Thank you in advance for any help you can provide. Eahogan23 (talk) 05:09, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@Eahogan23: If you are connected to the subject of the article , then you must discuss on the talk page before making any changes . I reverted your edits because it does not provide any source to verify your added information . For more help you may visit The Teahouse . Kpgjhpjm 05:19, 2 September 2018 (UTC)


Dear User:Kpgjhpjm, I'm writing you about the Draft:TARGET_instant_payment_settlement wiki page to ask for a clarification.

I've reviewed the page and performed the following changes:

1)removed a section related to instant payment system, that in now a new topic (;

2) added reference to pres releases about the TIPS project (in the hystory section).

I would ask you a feedback about the "promotional language" issue mentioned in the review section. Could you kindly provide an example of such language? As an example I've read another page related to payment sistem ( and the style seems the same adopted for TIPS.

Please let me know.

Thank you and best regards, Nicola Caione (talk) 06:39, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@Nicola Caione: The draft looks better now, you may submit it for re-review, let's see what other editors think . Kpgjhpjm 10:45, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
@Kpgjhpjm: Dear User:Kpgjhpjm thank you for your comment, I've added some minor changes, I hope the page is now ready to be published Nicola Caione (talk) 20:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
@Kpgjhpjm:Dear Kpgjhpjm,
unfortunately the review wasn’t accepted....
another user (Theroadislong) refused the article. The motivation is "blatant advertisement" for sentences like this: The Eurosystem’s market infrastructure is evolving and many initiatives are ongoing to promote efficiency, innovation and integration in financial markets in Europe.
To me it doesn't sound as an advertisement, but please consider I’m not native English speaker. Moreover, it is a fact stated in an official press release of the European Central Bank.
The ECB, the Institution promoting the TIPS initiative, it is a public authority like Federal Reserve System, Bank of Japan, International Monetary Fund etc. All these Institutions are independent, reliable and not aimed at making profit from their activities.
In order to stimulate the debate and (hopefully) come to a favorable conclusion, I ping also you in the talk page.
Thank you and best regards,
--Nicola Caione (talk) 10:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #018, 04 Sept 2018

Bug hunt!

As you know, portals are now supported by a number of new templates, which are in turn supported by some new Lua modules.

Those templates and modules are being put to the test, in the new portals that have been created since this WikiProject rebooted, plus a number of existing portals that have been revamped.

The new portals, and revamped ones, can be found at Category:Single-page portals.

Please browse the new portals at your leisure, and report any and all problems that you spot. Post bug and other portal problem reports at WT:WPPORTD. Please report bugs, quirks, awkward aspects, or anything weird or off that you notice. Compliments and suggestions are also welcome. :)

When you report a bug, please indicate the portal's name, the section that the problem appeared in, and the name of the article appearing (first) in the section with the problem. Most problems will likely be encountered in the Selected general articles" section, due to quirks in a displayed article's wikicode that the lua modules don't handle yet. Your help in spotting those is of utmost value. Thank you.

Don't delete portal subpages just yet

For portals that have been converted to the single-page design, we are not deleting their subpages at this time, because we are working on ways to harvest the data from those pages. For example, the Selected picture subpages include filenames and captions that would be valuable for the image slideshows. Please don't delete portal subpages, for now. They'll be slated for d-batch speedy deletion after harvesting. Thank you.

Development notes

We are currently testing a feature added to {{Transclude files as random slideshow}} that allows it to accept both sourcepages and filenames. Courtesy of Evad37. This will pave the way for harvesting files and their captions from portal subpages, for use in image slideshows.

We need your help

The bulk of the work is being done by a handful of editors. But we can't do it all. We need help with spotting bugs, refining the search parameters in new/revamped portals (in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections), adding images to slideshows for a broader selection (they default to showing the images on the root article page but are capable of showing so much more), adding panoramic pictures at the top of the intro section of region portals (cities, counties, states, provinces, countries, continents, and other regions), to name but a few task types.

It is rewarding to be a part of the growing portal phenomenon. And you get to see its expansion and refinement up close.

Feel free to join in on the fun. ;)

Thank you,    — The Transhumanist   06:53, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


I am sorry my son was on my computer he is not going to get back on it I promise you that, and I am sorry for and trouble or inconvenience he has caused you. I hope you can accept my apology.

                                                              Sincerely Jordan Cossman
@Jordan Cossman: You are responsible for all edits made from your account . Only one person can use an account on Wikipedia, so if your son was on your account, it could be blocked as compromised . See WP:COMPROMISED and WP:BRO . Kpgjhpjm 15:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

Draft Review

Few days ago you reviwed an article written by me. It was declined due to lack of sources. I appreciate your comment ("This submission is unsourced so please provide some reliable sources so the information can be verified"). I have added references to reliable sources and I would be grateful if you could re-review it. The article's title is: "Draft:RHETOS Publishing House".
Kind regards
Rhetos123 (talk) 10:25, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

@Rhetos123: OK , let's see what another Reviewer says about the article . Kpgjhpjm 11:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Sandbox for user warnings

Hey please don't use my name, or that of any other editor--that's just distracting. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

  • OK I see we have a mystery. Drmies (talk) 15:15, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
@Drmies: No I didn't , it just automatically happened. See this [] . Kpgjhpjm 15:16, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I saw your post at the Teahouse. I looked at the template--I have no explanation. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
@Drmies: Maybe it was a Twinkle software glitch. Kpgjhpjm 15:24, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
@Drmies: See [3] .Kpgjhpjm 15:28, 6 September 2018 (UTC)


Hi Pal, I provided references IKEA was founded by a Nazi.  Whydid you delete them?  The Guardian is not a reliable source?  A book written by a 30 year employee is not reliable?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:2901:BCD0:C1A4:95B5:90EC:79B9 (talk) 09:03, 7 September 2018 (UTC) 
I removed it because it was supporting the previous text , not your addition . Next time , please post at the bottom of my talk page,  not on the top .  If you say , I am   Checking... .  Kpgjhpjm 09:08, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Re Rock paper Scissors


Here is a reference to the changes made.[0]=68.ARCzSd8Ueh7YRB-_8R6IzOFPJvFVQbDCsN9uj1pjiHFv2L_KDfAE7QZvwSBiTH20j6wfApNEt9e1KxsY3avZjfZxmK_l10qdA82SW52c8Vx4n1eaAdX41lLvIQryOa6B8faT-N_tJ0UVDvAD7ykOOgZzXIx_vSiN4T-zo8a56PrZTMKyTLzALg&__tn__=kC-R

The confirmation post was made on the 19th Nov 2017.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:43, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi , Facebook, Twitter and YouTube are not reliable sources. See WP:RS . Kpgjhpjm 15:10, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Youtube can sometimes be used as a primary source. See WP:NOYT —AE (talkcontributions) 15:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
@Abelmoschus Esculentus: The problem here , is that , the IP Did not add the source while making the edits . If he had , I would not have reverted . Kpgjhpjm 15:20, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
Nah I am just providing information :) —AE (talkcontributions) 15:25, 7 September 2018 (UTC)

Recent warning

Hi Kpgjhpjm, I'm wondering if you could explain why you added a 4im warning for defamation at User talk: I hope I'm not missing anything – I'm not seeing any defamation, only simple vandalism, and certainly nothing that rises to a 4im level of disruptiveness, at least at first glance. Thanks! Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 06:25, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@L235: Firstly they made two edits there ,I was trying to revert the first but got edit conflicted by the IP and had to revert both edits . I was going to give a level 2 but when I saw their contributions tab (to copy the name of the vandalised article) , I saw they made another edit (which was also vandalism) , so I gave a 4im for three edits to make them stop . But they made two more edits (they were subsequently reverted also) , so I reported them at AIV . I felt like using the vandalism warning Template but they made a defamatory edit about the project , so I used uw-defamatory4im . I think it just looks more defamatory to me than you - just difference in viewpoint and opinion possibly .Looks like they have made 5 vandalism edits , so it is already breached the 4th warning . Kpgjhpjm 06:37, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Callaway County Missouri townships

Apologies for not including links to credible sources on historic and current township boundaries for all the townships. Instead of repeating the link to the references (2 detailed historic atlas maps), I have linked to the larger article on the county and linked the maps there. These may seem like ancient trivia unless realizing that ascertaining these locations are boundaries are vital to a correct understanding of historical events.. especially because place names have been replicated (i.e. city of Auxvasse, and then Auxvasse township, at opposite ends of the county), and boundaries have even been changed over time. This also applies in other states, where one can for example find a Harrison County in Ohio, distant from the Harrison Township in Gallia County in Ohio, and historic records dont always make it clear which is which. I hope that maps published for or by county or state governments suffice as credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Antifool (talkcontribs) 09:10, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@Antifool: Now it looks OK to me . Kpgjhpjm 09:56, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2010 400

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2010 400 you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria.   This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gonzo fan2007 -- Gonzo fan2007 (talk) 05:01, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

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Contested deletion Donald R. Davis (entomologist)

Hi Kpgjhpjm,
Thank you for your message on my talk page. You can find my reply here. Regards, Mill 1 (talk) 08:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

@Kpgjhpjm: I noticed that the page has been deleted. I do not understand. How can I find out who was responsible for it? Was it you? If so can you explain the reasoning behind the deletion? Where can I find a reply to my 'contested deletion' on the drafts page? Mill 1 (talk) 18:07, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
@Mill 1: You can find it here [4] .

Kpgjhpjm 01:31, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you Mill 1 (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

Eduting fireifgbter

why you stopping me from editingg firefighter page I am corecting the BS that is in there that hasn thuung to do t=with firefigting or prevent8ng firesd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:AC92:2600:D848:467D:7E7B:62EB (talk) 04:18, 12 September 2018 (UTC)

How can a title of an article I'm working on be changed?

Hi Kpgjhpjm,

I believe you transferred to the draft section of Wikipedia an article that I am working on for the music artist, producer, and actor Jason Damico. The title of the article reads the subject's full name "Jason Franklin Damico" but it needs to be "Jason Damico" since this is his stage/regular name. Is this something you can fix? I've tried to do so on my end but edit mode seems to not grant me that option.


Truthbound777 (talk) 19:33, 12 September 2018 (UTC) Truthbound777

@Truthbound777: Please see WP:MOVE for help on changing the title of a page . As per your request , I will move it . Kpgjhpjm 02:53, 13 September 2018 (UTC)


Thanks so much. I really appreciate that.

Truthbound777 (talk) 13:24, 13 September 2018 (UTC) Truthbound777

Fast food

I disagree with your assertion that my edit has violated the Manual of Style. All of my assertions were supported by the existing sources, and you've failed to indicate in any location where

You reverted while I was in the middle of adding my inline citations.

The fact that you reverted it using Twinkle, an anti-vandalism tool, is especially irritating to me. I realize that gets your edit count up soooper dooper high so you can run for Admin, but there was nothing in my edit that signified vandalism. You made a bad revert using an AV tool. Please don't do that again.

I've restored the relevant edit. Perhaps we can have further discussion on the article's talk page? Thanks a ton. :-) 2604:6000:E7C1:7800:2930:7426:51AC:C243 (talk) 01:34, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi, can you move your information to any other sections of the article , it is too much cluttering up the lead section . See MOS:LEAD and WP:LEADCITE . Kpgjhpjm 01:38, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Feel free to shove it somewhere else, sir. Or suggest where it should be shoved and I shall send it there myself. I don't mind at all reorganization, but I think a C-Class article is hardly harmed by the addition of new material, that's all. Thanks for the reply. 2604:6000:E7C1:7800:2930:7426:51AC:C243 (talk) 01:42, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi ,2604:6000:E7C1:7800:2930:7426:51AC:C243 , I think your information will be better in the variants section. Kpgjhpjm 01:45, 14 September 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2010 400

The article 2010 400 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2010 400 for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gonzo fan2007 -- Gonzo fan2007 (talk) 21:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)

Tfd relists

For Tfd, "There is no quorum. If, after the normal time period, there are no objections to deletion of a template, it can simply be deleted." So many of the relists you've done on the September 7 log are simply unnecessary as they can/would be just be closed as delete by admin. I suggest reading the essay WP:Relist bias, and that before relisting or closing in discussions in TfD you first participate in discussions. For AfD too, I suggest that you participate more rather than relist - there are quite enough non-admins going through and relisting things and not enough people participating. Galobtter (pingó mió) 10:23, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

OK, Galobtter , understood . Kpgjhpjm 12:07, 15 September 2018 (UTC)


read WP:RELISTBIAS and WP:NOQUORUM.This message is posted in light of your relist at this AfD.Thanks, WBGconverse 12:28, 15 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Hi, I would ask that you consider not relisting pages that do not have much participation or that have already been relisted once. Admins are supposed to first consider deleting these as PRODs per WP:SOFTDELETE before resliting them. As you don't have the ability to delete an article, it create the potential for relist bias. TonyBallioni (talk) 18:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
    • @TonyBallioni: Hi, as per your advice I have only relisted discussions with no participation at all . If you find any issues with that , please let me know . Kpgjhpjm 01:33, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
      • Those were the ones I was saying not to relist... Admins can (but don’t have to) delete them as PRODs so non-admins shouldn’t relist as they can’t do that. It’s fine. I’ll go through them tomorrow, or not. No need to worry about undoing them. Just keep it in mind going forward.TonyBallioni (talk) 01:41, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
        • @TonyBallioni: I have two questions - how can you delete articles at Afd as PRODs which do not have any comments in the discussion and which Afds to relist . Kpgjhpjm 01:45, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
          • Very easily: per WP:SOFTDELETE policy expects that I first evaluate the article as I would a PROD i.e. look at the nominating statement and see if it’s a valid deletion rationale that is non-controversial. If it is, I delete the article. If it isn’t, I relist it. In terms of what to relist: as a non-admin I would suggest relisting anything with one keep vote or one keep/one delete. That means it is clearly a controversial deletion, and more discussion is needed. You should not relist something where an admin would be within policy to use their tools, however. TonyBallioni (talk) 01:50, 16 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Antigen Shift

Hello. Per WP:RELIST, relisting more than twice is strongly discouraged and "in general" should not occur. When it does happen, the relisting user should write an explanation "on why they did not consider the debate sufficient" on the AfD itself. Regards —AE (talkcontributions) 01:30, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus: Sorry for that , looks like I pressed the relist button too early . I will try to leave a comment from now . Back to anti-vandalism :-) Kpgjhpjm 01:42, 17 September 2018 (UTC)


Hi Kpgjhpjm,

You rejected my article on the game of KLASK. It has been rejected several times and I start to wonder what specifically is wrong with it. It already exists on the German wiki, and I made sure that the English page covered the same areas and more. CAn you point out specifically what is wrong with the article? Many of the articles I can link to are in Danish, which is why I have limited the links to a few English articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:8F6:9600:68D3:24B0:69E0:9FE7 (talk) 12:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

I now see something weird about your article - there are 8 references in it but in the references section it is showing only 3 which was causing me to believe a lack of citations . Can you fix that and then submit it for re-review. Kpgjhpjm 12:58, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Dear Kpgjhpjm,

This has now been done :)

Br. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:14BA:8F6:9600:68D3:24B0:69E0:9FE7 (talk) 13:18, 17 September 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2010 400

The article 2010 400 you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:2010 400 for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gonzo fan2007 -- Gonzo fan2007 (talk) 16:22, 12 September 2018 (UTC)


Did you even bother to look at the edit? (talk) 16:38, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

Portals WikiProject update #019, 22 Sept 2018

Portals progress report

Don't blink. You might miss something.

As of a few days ago, portals had doubled in about a month and a half.

Also, there were 98 incompleted portals in Category:Portals under construction. Now there are just 43.

The WikiProject page has been thoroughly revised

The goals, plans, and task sections have all been updated.

Orphaned portals need a home...

Many new portals are still orphans, and need links pointing to them:

  1. A portal link at the bottom of corresponding navigation footer template. E.g., Template:Machines for Portal:Machines. See examples of a portals link at the bottom of Template:Robotics and Template:Forestry.
  2. A {{Portal}} box in the See also section of the corresponding root article for each portal. If there is no See also section, create one and place the portal template in that. (Rather than placing them in an external links section -- they're not external links).
  3. A {{Portal}} template placed at the top of the category page corresponding to each portal.

All new and revamped portals can be found at Category:Single-page portals.


This is the main list of portals.

Nearly 2,000 of the new portals need to be listed here.

They can be found at Portal talk:Contents/Portals#These are not listed yet. Instructions are included there.

Customized Portal Rating system is now in place

Portals now have a new rating system of their own designed specifically to support portal evaluation! We were trying to use the standard assessment system for articles, but that doesn't fit portals very well.

Many thanks to Evad37, Waggers, AfroThundr3007730, SMcCandlish, Tom, BrendonTheWizard, and Pbsouthwood for their work and input on this.

The new system can be found at the top of all portal talk pages, in the WikiProject portals box. Those with "???" ratings need to be assessed, which makes up most of the older portals.

Most of the new portals were started out with an initial "Low" level of importance when their talk pages were created. Those deserving higher importance should be promoted as you come across them.

Improving the new portals

The starting point for new portals included minimal parameters and content, in the form of default values in the template(s) used for their creation.

Embellishing embedded search strings

So, for the search strings in the "Did you know..." and "In the news" sections, this was the magic word {{PAGENAME}}, which represents the portal's name. Unfortunately, the resulting term is alway capitalized, which limits its effectiveness as a search string for anything but proper nouns. Results for those two sections can be improved, by replacing the "PAGENAME" magic word with multiple search strings, and search strings that begin with lower case letters. There is no inherent limit as to how many search parameters may be included. Lua search notation is used. The more general the subject, the more subtopic search terms you may want to include. For example, on Portal:Avengers (comics), {{PAGENAME}} turned up nothing. But, when more parameters were added, as in the wikicode below...

{{Transclude selected recent additions | {{PAGENAME}} | Iron Man | Spiderman | Antman | Hawkeye | The Hulk | Incredible Hulk | David Banner | Captain America | Scarlet Witch | Black Widow | Tony Stark | Nick Fury | Age of Ultron | Infinity War | months=36 | header={{Box-header colour|Did you know... }}|max=6}}

... that returned several results in the portal's DYK section.

Be sure you make the improvements to both the DYK section and the "In the news" section, as they both require the search strings.

Expanding the slideshow contents

The default starting selection for the image slideshow in most new portals is whatever images happen to be in the corresponding root article (via the PAGENAME magic word). You can improve image slideshows by adding more sourcepages and filenames as parameters in the "Selected images" section of portals.

See Template:Transclude files as random slideshow/doc for instructions.

More exciting things are to come...

Portals used to take about 6 hours or more to create. Now, for subjects that have particular navigation support, we've got that down to about one minute each, with even more content displayed than ever. True, that means the new portals pick you, rather than the other way around. Creating a specific portal that doesn't happen to have the requisite navigation support is still pretty time consuming. But, we are working on extending our reach beyond the low-hanging fruit.

And efforts are ongoing to keep shaving time off of the creation process. Eventually, we may get it down to seconds each.

In addition to improving automation, we're always looking for new features and improvements that we can add to portals, and there is plenty of potential to expand on the standard design so that new portals are even better right out of the starting gate. Additional designs are also possible.

On the horizon, there are many more portals waiting to be created. And we can expect to see at least a few more section types emerge. I never expected slideshows, for example, especially not for excerpts. Who knows where innovation will take us next?

Keep up the great work everyone.

Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   07:07, 23 September 2018 (UTC)

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