# User talk:Jc3s5h

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## Earth's Rotation slowing undo

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask this. You undid my edit to the sentence

Analysis of historical astronomical records shows a slowing trend of about 2.3 milliseconds per century since the 8th century BCE.[2]

The original cited resource more specifically said LOD (Lenth of day). It is the day that is increasing by 2.3 milliseconds, not the century. You were correct that the original article said "per century" but the wikipedia article omits the "LOD" length of day reference in this sentence which gives the impression that the earth's rotation is slowing at 2.3 milliseconds per century. Would you consider editing to at least make it clear that this 2.3 milliseconds per century is referring to the length of day rather than the whole 100 years?

2607:F2C0:95C5:5600:E9E1:6852:C929:D57 (talk) 12:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

I've tried to clarify it. It seemed clear enough to me, but then, I studied science and engineering at university, and I received lower grades on tests if I didn't get the units of measure exactly correct. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Your edit addresses my concerns, thank you. I'm a layman, and this all started with me copying and pasting the paragraph in a message to my nuclear physicist brother in law asking him how this kind of accuracy could be possible. He pointed out it was the 2.3 ms per day, not per century and that it must be a typo. So after that I figured the change would be warranted. Your way was better than mine, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:F2C0:95C5:5600:E9E1:6852:C929:D57 (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

## Using SPS

Thanks for your comment at WT:USINGSPS. By the way: "...has skipped some steps in his `{{their|Mathglot}}` exposition." As far as "skipping some steps", you're right; I wage a constant battle between brevity, and attempting to include every possible detail and possible objections. I opted for brevity here, as I've been criticized for being too wordy before; perhaps not the right choice in this case. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:49, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

## "Electoral" curiosity

I reconsider my request; I was obviously misinformed, that's all. Once the machine counted the votes, it was the poll workers who processed the percentages, right? Actually, doing it was a relatively simple operation. Can this reasoning of mine be correct? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.100.198 (talk) 01:29, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

What matters is the count. If the law says a person needs a plurality of the votes, candidate A gets 21,202, candidate B gets 21,201, and all the other candidates get less, then A wins. What the percentage is does not matter to the official who certifies the result. In my experience, poll workers do not process percentages, they process counts. Jc3s5h (talk) 01:46, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Ok, you've made yourself perfectly clear, but then who's in charge? When I follow an Election night, the votes show up, sure, but so do the percentages. Does Networks do that? Somebody's gotta take care of it, don't you think? That's the part I'm curious about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.100.198 (talk) 02:02, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

The news media conduct exit polls, where they ask people who just left the polling places how they voted. They make projections based partly on that. The election officials release preliminary figures shortly after the polls close; the news media use those results to refine their news stories. Finally, all the numbers are finalized and the official results are certified. The amount of time this takes varies from one jurisdiction to another. It can also vary if complications arise, such as a need for a recount. Unless the election is really close, the release of the official certified results aren't usually mentioned by the press, but it will be available on some obscure government website.
If you're really interested, the counting process in some places is open to the public. You can go sit in a chair off to the side on election night and watch. Jc3s5h (talk) 03:10, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

## Jesus Christ the human

Hello!

I'm pretty new to Wikidata and am trying to understand how things work. I made an edit to the item Jesus Christ, adding a statement stating that it is an instance of human, which you removed, calling it an "extraordinary claim." I think it is pretty obvious that the strongest claim to what Jesus is an "instance of" is that he was a human. The English Wikipedia article states that "Virtually all modern scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed historically" which attests to this. Can I add the Wikipedia article as a reference to my statement? I'd be very happy if you helped.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ofyalcin (talkcontribs) 00:23, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

It's widely known that Christians consider Jesus to be God. It's also widely known that some historians, some Christians, and Islam considers him to be human. Since there are different points of view, one or more suitable reliable sources should be cited.
None of the various language Wikipedia editions are reliable sources and none of them should be cited for anything. That they are is an embarrassment to Wikidata and the Wikimedia Foundation. Jc3s5h (talk) 14:12, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

## Request for example

Hello. Could you please provide an example for this statement from WP:NPOV. I have difficulty understanding it.

"Unless a topic specifically deals with a disagreement over otherwise uncontested information"

If there is disagreement, how can it be considered uncontested? The entire sentence seems long and complicated to me. Maybe it can be broken into two simpler sentences. Thanks in advance. 4nn1l2 (talk) 18:25, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

This is rather strange wording, and I'm not quite what that phrase is supposed to mean. It was introduced in 20010 in this edit by Ludwigs2.
The overall meaning of the paragraph is that attribution is normally used if there are varying views about an issue, so it's important to indicate who is making a statement. But this approach is used when it isn't necessary, it makes it seem as if a statement is controversial, when it really isn't. For example,
Adventures of Huckleberry Finn is a book. Little Women is a book. Lindsey Fraser thinks Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is a book.
Phrasing it this way implies that everyone agrees the first two are books, but there is some controversy about whether the first work about Harry Potter is really a book or not. Jc3s5h (talk) 04:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)