User talk:JJMC89/Archives/2017/February

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Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/JJMC89 bot 9 has been approved with a ramp-up schedule. Please see the BRFA for details before beginning. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 00:15, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2

Hello JJMC89,
A HUGE backlog

We now have 339 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.


This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.
Coordinator election

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.

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JJMC89, your recent BRFA Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/JJMC89 bot II has been approved. Please wait until the bot flag is added to that account before running jobs. Happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 16:29, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

done. — xaosflux Talk 22:22, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

CSS styling in templates

Hello everyone, and sincere apologies if you're getting this message more than once. Just a heads-up that there is currently work on an extension in order to enable CSS styling in templates. Please check the document on to discuss best storage methods and what we need to avoid with implementation. Thanks, m:User:Melamrawy (WMF), 09:11, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Why is the bot removing an infobox heading / comment

See this edit where a heading / comment is removed by the bot. This is happening elsewhere. Alansohn (talk) 13:40, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

The parser considers it a part of the parameter, |longd= in that edit. — JJMC89 17:38, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
... and are you fixing the problem and will you be going back to fix the errors created by the parser? Alansohn (talk) 04:53, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
As far as I am concerned, there is no problem. The HTML comment is unnecessary. — JJMC89 04:57, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
Dude, your bot is knowingly removing comments from hundreds of articles, and your response is that it's "unnecessary"? As far as I'm concerned your bot is useless. Please start giving a shit about the ramifications of your work and fix the goddamn problem before setting your bot off again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alansohn (talkcontribs) 12:29, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Surely the function of that comment is "unnecessary" but helpful - a navigational aid to editors working on the template, and something which should not be deleted. PamD 13:03, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

I could list hundreds of edits like this one in which your bot knowingly and disruptively removes material from articles. Fix the problem or kill the bot. Alansohn (talk) 20:23, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

As far as I am concerned, there is no problem. Therefore, there is nothing to fix. — JJMC89 23:13, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

Notice of noticeboard discussion

  There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Alansohn (talk) 02:51, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

This is now at Wikipedia:Bot_owners'_noticeboard#JJMC89_bot_Task_7_concerns. — xaosflux Talk 05:32, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Please fix the bot's edit summaries (BSicons replacement)

"Repalce" → "Replace"? Everything else seems to be working fine though. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
to reply to me
08:14, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Jc86035. Spelling is hard. — JJMC89 08:25, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
You do not need to restart the ramp-up for this summary typo  xaosflux Talk 22:24, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

(The bot seems to have stopped editing BSicon templates. Is this intended or did it randomly stop working?) Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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15:59, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

The bot was blocked for a while. See links below. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:13, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
@Jonesey95: I think that was earlier. The bot hasn't edited for two hours currently. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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16:15, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035: The bot hit an exception and crashed. 561cfc6 should fix it. The bot will (re)start on its own once a day, currently ~00:30 UTC. — JJMC89 04:52, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


fix common mistakes

Thank you for fixing common mistakes, such as word repetition, for your useful bots with tasks completed and others performed daily, for a detailed infobox about yourself, for showing, for welcoming new users with "good luck, and have fun", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, Gerda! — JJMC89 19:12, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Category:Pages using infobox UK place with unknown parameters (Wales)

Category:Pages using infobox UK place with unknown parameters is showing a few hundred places from Wales. A quick look suggests that they all include |english_name. The only permitted parameters are |official_name, |welsh_name, and |local_name. Can you consider deleting it? but only when the value matches |official_name? Twiceuponatime (talk) 11:03, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Twiceuponatime: I would be willing to do this; however, since |english_name= doesn't do anything currently, it would be considered a cosmetic edit. WP:AWBRULES #4 prevents the use of AWB and WP:COSMETICBOT applies, so consensus for removal would be needed. Usually a discussion for this would occur on the template's talk page with discussion notifications being placed at the relevant WikiProjects. — JJMC89 19:30, 12 February 2017 (UTC)


Your BRFA, Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/JJMC89 bot 10 has been approved for an extended trial. Will you be able to perform this while your other coordinate issues being discussed at WP:BON are ongoing (with User:JJMC89 bot/shutoff/InfoboxCoordinatesParametersMigrator including text?). — xaosflux Talk 15:53, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: Yes, I can run the extended trial with the other task disabled. Each task has its own shutoff page. — JJMC89 19:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Your edits on user access levels

Your edit is grammatically incorrect, so I have reverted it.--Lawrencegordon (talk) 21:41, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The technical name of the user group as defined in the software configuration does not have a space, so your edit is the incorrect one. — JJMC89 21:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Lawrencegordon: User access levels are an element of Wikipedia software coding that doesn't need to and doesn't conform to English grammar. General Ization Talk 21:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
Apologies.--Lawrencegordon (talk) 21:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

BSIcon changes - are these really necessary?

Your bot is swamping my watchlist with changes to railway line templates, e.g. six changes so far to Sutton Park Line [1]. I have a number of articles like this on my watchlist, and in the past week, the vast majority of changes have been made by your bot. Given that the changes are simply replacing file redirects on Commons, is this really necessary? If so, could all the changes be done in one hit? Optimist on the run (talk) 23:19, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

The task was requested by Jc86035 because route diagram templates don't use syntax recognized by global replace / CommonsDelinker. It is programmed to replace by BSicon to be similar to those – based on moves. Currently it is catching up on all of the past moves. — JJMC89 23:56, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
@Optimist on the run: Regardless of how the bot handles edits, it seems to have replaced all of the redirects already. I don't think the bot will be editing that much for a while, unless we decide to deprecate suffixes or something similar.
@JJMC89: Would it be possible to group together all (or several) changes to a page in one edit? This might be useful if we decide to transwiki the bot. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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04:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
@Jc86035: It should be doable, but I don't have time to rewrite the code right now. Is there another wiki that uses template syntax like enwiki? (I would use it to run simulations with the new code since there isn't anything left here.) — JJMC89 19:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
I think zhwiki is almost identical, except {{BS-map}} has been converted to the Routemap syntax and the categories are a bit different. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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10:55, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
7c2b813 deployed. — JJMC89 05:05, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

BSicons redirect replacement: edge cases

There seem to be a couple of route diagrams (may be more) where your bot isn't replacing BSicon redirects. This is probably because of extra whitespace or hidden comments in the template parameter names or parameter values. It's not really necessary, but it'd be nice if the bot could handle these situations. Thanks, Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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14:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

@Jc86035: That is easy enough to fix. Do you want to retain the HTML comments or remove them? — JJMC89 16:17, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
@JJMC89: It would probably be better to retain them to avoid inconveniencing other editors. Jc86035 (talk) Use {{re|Jc86035}}
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04:23, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
7c2b813 deployed. — JJMC89 05:05, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Request a query

hi, I noticed you watch the above page, this request was posted [2] 2 days ago(UTC), I was wondering if you might be able to help, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 00:00, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

I cannot. I am not familiar with the database tables. — JJMC89 05:46, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much

For your cleanup of the Perth / Perth, Western Australia items - your hard work and patience is appreciated JarrahTree 12:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3

Hello JJMC89,

Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 358 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.

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stray longEW

can you fix these edits? we don't need to leave the old syntax. thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:21, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

|longEW= was not supported by {{Infobox Municipality BR}}, so it was not mapped into {{coord}} and removed. I suspect there are many cases where editors used unsupported parameters that were therefore not migrated/removed. — JJMC89 16:32, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
so, you can't remove them? you can find them in Category:Pages using infobox Municipality BR with unknown parameters. Frietjes (talk) 17:29, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
It looks like you got most of them before I got home from work. I've removed |longEW= from the remainder. — JJMC89 02:55, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Edits to SPI investigation/Hammadsaeed

I see that you just removed edits by Hammadsaeed4 on the sockpuppet investigation mentioned above. Can I ask that you please restore the edits? It's basically a confession of abusing multiple accounts by his trying to explain his behavior. The reviewing Administrator will take one look at that and ban all accounts involved (that are endorsed by the CheckUser clerk). Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 04:36, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

  Done — JJMC89 04:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. Boomer VialHolla! We gonna ball! 04:53, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
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