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Question on Reverted Edit

Hi - can I understand your edit on the page Heart of God Church because of unreliable source. There were links to Singapore's national Newspaper the Straits Times and another national publication (Malay publication) Berita Harian. Also, the person referenced is a Member of Parliament in Singapore. Her account and posts are easily verifiable. Is there a reason why you feel my edit is not verifiable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1mag1n3 (talkcontribs) 15:56, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

@1mag1n3: The content was removed because Facebook is not a reliable source. The Straits Times and Berita Harian citations were only cited on The event was covered on The Straits Times and on Berita Harian., which doesn't mean anything on its own. The information can be reintroduced if it is reliably sourced. What is your relationship to/with the Heart of God Church? — JJMC89 01:36, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
@JJMC89: I see. I attended the event and so I thought it was something worth introducing into the post as it seems like most articles I read had something similar and this helps clarify proper citation.

Paramahansa Yogananda talk page

Hello JJMC899 - you transferred data from another comment page and said if it was obsolete to delete it, which I did but it left an odd list of what looks like references and I am unable to delete/clean it up. Can you? Red Rose 13 (talk) 15:01, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

@Red Rose 13:   Done. You can use {{talkref}} to display the references in the sections they relate to. Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:55, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Sorry tried to delete the reference list and they went back to where they were, most are already being used and the rest we don't need. Can you just delete them? thanks Red Rose 13 (talk) 02:04, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Editing war

Hi, I am Tnguyen4321 (talk · contribs · logs), IP123.24.194.104 is engaging in an edit war with me at Battle of Ia Drang. I have reach out a hand to him, but he does not seem to want to comprise in his response. Would you mind intervene in this matter? By the way, I think this editor is using multiple IPs in his editing:,, and Thanks for your assistance.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 11:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

@Tnguyen4321: If the IP is edit warring, then you are too. The proper place for discussion about the article is the article's talk page. Seek dispute resolution/a third opinion if the two of you cannot come to a consensus on the talk page. — JJMC89 01:23, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for you advice. I will go that route.Tnguyen4321 (talk) 06:24, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

User:JJMC89 bot edits

Hello JJMC89, in regards to Task 4; the summaries you are leaving indicate that a procedure should be used to move the content of these pages via subst: (Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages). It appears you are skipping this step though. Please review and advise. — xaosflux Talk 11:57, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: The /Comments pages that the bot is currently redirecting have already had the contents substituted onto the main talk page. There should be an "Assessment comment" section at the bottom of the page. — JJMC89 12:02, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, I missed one of those on a random page I came across and didn't see it in bot contribs because the tasks have a gap between them. All good, happy editing, — xaosflux Talk 12:05, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

JJMC89 bot repeating edits

Hi. I tidied up the move of comments to Talk:Carl Nielsen/Archive 1 but now the bot has transferred the comments again with this edit. You need to keep track of progress somehow... --Mirokado (talk) 20:37, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mirokado: Progress is being tracked using categories. You removed {{Substituted comment}}, which removed the tracking. /Comments is now redirected, so the bot will not add the comments again. — JJMC89 20:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I was wondering what should be done about the comments page. The original bot edit transferred a rather mangled copy of the original, with equal signs turned into {{nw=}} which affected section headings and subheadings, so the tidying up was necessary. --Mirokado (talk) 21:00, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
The same thing has happened at Aylesford. Since the template includes the sentence "The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section", I have been removing the section where the comments are outdated or irrelevant"! I suspect that this is becoming a general problem. Regards, Martin of Sheffield (talk) 21:27, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Removal of username on AFC list

I noticed you have removed my name from the Articles for creation Helper Script check page, I have re-added it because it drastically prevents me from improving and maintaining Wikipedia. Names should probably only be removed if the user is misusing the AFD Helper Script, which I am not. Music1201 talk 22:30, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

By that logic everyone could add their name to the check page. Omni Flames let's talk about it 22:46, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Omni Flames, what do you suppose is the purpose of WP:IAR is. This is an exact example of where this policy applies. Adding my name does not disrupt Wikipedia, it improves it. Music1201 talk 22:51, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
I suggest you take it up on the AFC talk page. Consensus is also policy. — JJMC89 05:39, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Guys

Why you revert my edit at Kuningan? MurbautTalk 09:56, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Murbaut: The content you added was not supported by a reliable source. Also, per policy your signature is not permitted to contain any images. — JJMC89 16:25, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Redirecting comments subpage

I noticed this change, which you're doing in bulk (and consider this a Thanks for taking on a routine improvement task). But WP:DCS also says "Secondly, the /Comments subpage is redirected to the article's talk page, citing WP:DCS in the edit summary." Was that going to be done on a second pass? David Brooks (talk) 17:34, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

@DavidBrooks: Yes, the bot will make another pass to redirect the /Comments subpage. — JJMC89 17:38, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
Would it be possible for all these to be marked as minor edits? I've been receiving hundreds of email notifications. SagaciousPhil - Chat 07:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
@Sagaciousphil:   Done Thanks for the feedback. — JJMC89 07:48, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

It all seems to be going very well. I've check quite a number and haven't noticed anything wrong. A number of people have already deleted the comments, which then removes them from the tracking category for redirecting. I think I've caught most of them though.

@MSGJ: I will handle them; I'm just doing them separately to make creating the redirect list easier. I'll take a look at {{Substituted comment/checkarchive}}. AWB is loading extra links because {{#ifexist}} adds a link entry each time it is called. — JJMC89 02:44, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
@MSGJ:   Fixed {{Substituted comment/checkarchive}} by using the REVISIONTIMESTAMP parser function directly instead of the template. I substituted your sandbox, so AWB now loads the intended set of links. — JJMC89 03:14, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
Great, thank you. It's working well. Could you clear out Category:Pages whose comments subpage can be redirected when you get a chance? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:40, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
  Done I'll try to make sure it's clear daily. — JJMC89 07:01, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. By the way, I have been tweaking the code to treat pages like Talk:Another Planet / Voyager properly. Please double-check before continuing. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:04, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

I have reverted my changes for now. I can't think of a way of obtaining the correct talk page which will work with Talk:Another Planet / Voyager and also Talk:Georgetown University/Archive 2. Basically there is no way of knowing what the root-talk-page is. Hopefully this will not cause any other problems. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

JJMC: please note, as previously advised, that the template is not currently working with any article whose title contains a slash. (See [1] for example.) Please could you fix up the template because I have tried and failed? Regards — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:23, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@MSGJ: Thanks. I will take a look at it before I do a subst run with the bot again. — JJMC89 16:28, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Parser Function

I couldn't find this on, so I'll ask you. What does #invoke do? –Compassionate727 (T·C) 16:59, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

@Compassionate727: It runs mw:Extension:Scribunto modules. (talk page stalker) Jackmcbarn (talk) 17:17, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks you. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:20, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

No clue what happened on Bbb23's talk page

I just left a dinner engagement halfway because I couldn't respond adequately on my iPhone to what appears, inexplicably, to have happened when I was attempting to leave a response to Bbb23's nice response to my comment. I would never delete random comments from someone else's talk page and I have no idea what kind of glitch led to this. I am mortified to be in the position, late on a Friday night in my time zone, of having to flee a dinner party to find a desktop computer to respond, but I think it's necessary at this point. I don't know what happened. It was in no way intentional. I don't have the authority to generate or send any kind of logs to anyone with respect to this desktop computer, but I would if it was necessary. Please let me know what further information I can give you to assure you that whatever the fudge happened wasn't remotely intentional--I still can't even figure out what happened and I am in a blind panic about the notion of being thought a vandal here. All the best for a good weekend in any event - Julietdeltalima (talk) 04:00, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

@Julietdeltalima: Don't worry about it. I didn't think you were vandalizing. I figured it was unintentional or a software glitch. Enjoy your weekend, and happy editing. (CC: TP) — JJMC89 04:22, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Removed awards and nomination from Olatunde Sleek

Olatunde Sleek (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I removed awards and nomination from Olatunde sleek,every other information has citation so what's the problem? Newmusiclisting (talk) 10:38, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

@Newmusiclisting: Having citations does not make the article subject notable. Significant coverage in reliable sources is required to establish notability. — JJMC89 10:44, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Infobox University

You referred to WP:TESTCASES. The template now exists in the SANDBOX. Not entirely my doing, but it works. How do we make the edit to make this function? As I mentioned, with subsequent edits taking place, time is of the essence. Trackinfo (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

It looks like Andy is looking into your request. — JJMC89 03:28, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


Since you're my go-to at this point for questions relating to templates, I'll ask you. Is there a magic word (or something like that) which can be used to check if a given person is a member of a group (e.g. administrator)? –Compassionate727 (T·C) 12:09, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

@Compassionate727: No there isn't. Depending on your use case, you can check using Special:ListUsers/sysop or Special:ListUsers/Example User (see {{User wikipedia/template editor}}) or using the API (mw:API:Users, mw:API:Userinfo). There are also CSS classes that can be used to hide things from users but show them to sysops. — JJMC89 15:54, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
I was wanting to design a talk page message template that would display a message different depending on whether or not the user whose talk page it was attached to was an admin or not. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:32, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
@Compassionate727: Unfortunately a template cannot automatically do that. You could create the template with a parameter indicating if the user is a sysop. A script could add a buttonlink to your toolbox that would access the API to populate the parameter and substitute the template. — JJMC89 03:15, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
A button to my toolbox? What? I don't actually know anything about this, literally just learned template syntax. –Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:47, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
@Compassionate727: Sorry to be confusing; I just wanted to give you an option to accomplish what you wanted to do since a template alone wouldn't do the trick. A script would need to be coded in JavaScript and added to your common.js. The toolbox is on the left as "Tools" with "What links here", etc. The link could also go at the top on the line with your username or in the row with "Edit" just below that. (Locations assume that you're using Vector, the default skin.) — JJMC89 16:08, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Dashboard edit

Was wondering why you prefer so much with space and sandwiched text at Wikipedia:Dashboard? -- Moxy (talk) 00:55, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Hey Moxy. I don't use the Dashboard, but I do transclude some of its subpages, which use {{Dashboard grouping}}. A width of 90% doesn't allow for sidebars alongside them. I added |style= to allow for customization. — JJMC89 01:49, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
Sounds good...wondering if I should separate them so all can do what they like (as in new template for trasculding pages)...will see -- Moxy (talk) 01:54, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

It's a very technical thing

I saw you reverted my edit and then undoed your own revert. You got it right. Flags are very often misinterpreted as rights (which in actuality are the user rights or UAL, whatever). It's a pretty messy thing but I try to be right. --QEDK (T C) 06:32, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

@QEDK: My first edit was correct, but I reverted it because many other pages use the incorrect terminology. There are user groups (access levels), e.g. Page mover (extendedmover). Those user groups have rights, e.g. suppressredirect and move-subpages. See Special:ListGroupRights. — JJMC89 06:49, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
Rights are user groups which are called flags apparently (just checked). I'd rather not comment, do as you please, since getting the gist of it is impossible. --QEDK (T C) 06:52, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for resurrecting the Wikinews Importer Bot

  The da Vinci Barnstar
Thank you for all your work in getting the Wikinews Importer Bot working again. I greatly appreciate all the time you spent in resurrecting it. I'm sure many others will appreciate it, as well, even if they don't know who did it. You are awesome. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:43, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
Glad I could help, Joe.   — JJMC89 05:17, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Surtees TS14

Hello, I noticed you left a message on the talk-page of the editor responsible for the muddled page history. By way of background, this is an editor who has been a long-term problem to the F1 project and who has no concept of Wiki policies, guidelines or procedures. After almost a year and over 120 different IP addresses he has finally created an account with the result that his rejected draft was copied into mainspace. If he runs true to form he'll just delete your message and carry on per normal. He has at least 2 other sub-standard pages (one already rejected twice) in draft. Thanks. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 07:34, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

  The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank you very much Sir, for your guidence as I was a candidate of Rfa but now I have realized that it was very soon for me. Actually, at first I was just fimalier with the basic structure of Wikipedia but now I have learned many technicalities and I laughed alot today when I again saw my Rfa Candidate Statement. :D. Again Thanks alot for being so nice and guiding me, I truly appreciate that. Sorry for being Late. :p Muhammadahmad79 (talk) 20:33, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

What are you doing?

I have worked hard editing the page and you completely erased it. Why?
This is an actual person and the articles are all over Philippines Politics... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Workerwiki (talkcontribs) 08:30, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

@Workerwiki: You should read pages that were linked in the notice that I left on your talk page. Content on Wikipedia must be supported by cited reliable sources per our venerability policy, especially biographical content about living persons. — JJMC89 08:46, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

ACWA Power

I saw the recent warning placed on the article approved yesterday. Please could you clarify the reasons and the changes that are required so that I can recommend edits immediately?
Thank you, GATalbot (talk) 07:24, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

@GATalbot: I removed content from the article when I placed the notice. The content that I removed violated our copyright policy. No action is required by you unless you wish to rewrite the removed content in your own words. I will leave some information on your talk page. — JJMC89 08:46, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Diannaa, when you have a few moments, would you take a look at the article to see if there are any other related issues. Thanks. — JJMC89 08:56, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
I found a little more copy vio and did the revision deletion. Current version looks okay from a copyright point of view. — Diannaa (talk) 14:06, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you both for your support in resolving the issues. GATalbot (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Thank you, Diannaa. — JJMC89 20:18, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Help talk:Embassy Hill Formula One cars

That's our long-term (former) IP hopping editor again (see above re Surtees TS14). He means to create category (etc.) but hasn't even realised his mistake. It might as well be deleted as Hill only made 2 cars, one never raced and there's only one page which could go in it. Eagleash (talk) 21:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

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