Archive 1: January 2007 to January 2010, Archive 2: January 2010 to January 2011, Archive 3: January 2011 to June 2011, Archive 4: June 2011 to November 2011, Archive 5: December 2011 to August 2012, Archive 6: September 2012 to December 2012, Archive 7: December 2012 to May 2013, Archive 8: June 2013 to November 2013, Archive 9: November 2013 to August 2014, Archive 10: September 2014 to February 2015, Archive 11:March 2015 to August 2015, Archive 12: March 2015 to August 2015, Archive 13: September 2015 to May 2016, Archive 14: June 2016 to December 2016, Archive 15: January 2017 to August 2017, Archive 16: September 2017 to March 2018, Archive 17: April 2018 to September 2018, Archive 18: October 2018 to August 2019, Archive 19: September 2019 to January 2020, Archive 20: February 2020 to June 2020, Archive 21: July 2020 to September 2020

Alma Vessells JohnEdit

Can you give this one a once-over before I nominate it? Thanks! If you are too busy, no worries. SusunW (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

SusunW: Virtually nothing to do on this one but please continue to send me your latest articles. They always make interesting reading.--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I honestly appreciate your going over them, as many of them develop so piecemeal that I want to insure they are cohesive. I loved writing her. She was truly a fascinating subject and required a lot of detective work. I cannot believe a formal biography of her doesn't exist somewhere. SusunW (talk) 13:09, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Your advice on Terje G. Simonsen articleEdit

Ian, hi. Please take a look at Draft:Terje G. Simonsen. It is a properly stated WP:COI contribution about a Norwegian non-fiction author. I would like to know how it could/should be developed in order to improve the chances of passing an AfC review. Thanks! Peter. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 18:36, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

As it seems to have been submitted for review, I don't think I should intervene at this stage. Let's see how it goes.--Ipigott (talk) 19:04, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Mary DeesEdit

If you get a chance can you look this one over? Thanks! SusunW (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

SusunW: You obviously meant Mary Dee. Well researched article with good illustrations. Ready for GA, I think.--Ipigott (talk) 09:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
Oh how silly of me. I had just finished writing to Rosie to have her check the hat note, as I am still not comfortable creating disamb pages and wasn't sure if I'd done it right. Glad you figured it out. Thanks for your help. I do appreciate you. SusunW (talk) 13:43, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

October 2020Edit

  Hello. Your recent edit to List of Indian writers appears to have added the name of a non-notable entity to a list that normally includes only notable entries. In general, a person, organization or product added to a list should have a pre-existing article before being added to most lists. If you wish to create such an article, please first confirm that the subject qualifies for a separate, stand-alone article according to Wikipedia's notability guideline. Thank you. Alexf(talk) 09:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Well spotted, Alexf: for the time being it is Priya Kumar (writer). Should be moved shortly.--Ipigott (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2020 (UTC)


@Ipigott and SusunW: You both are far more knowledgeable than I am in regards to AfD's because you have been here longer. So, I have a question. How common is it to see a closer delete an article when only a third of the votes are to delete?Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:49, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Tsistunagiska AfD is not a vote, so it does and it doesn't matter how may ayes and neighs there are per se. What matters is how many of those votes directly and specifically relate to policy. So technically you could have 10 votes for keep which cite no policy and one vote for delete which was strongly rooted in policy and it could close with a decision to delete. It is supposed to be a discussion of whether based on our guidelines and policies an article can be justified. I typically avoid the platform, as it is a drama board. I figure if an article is deleted and there are adequate sources, it can be recreated. If I do weigh in, it is usually because the article easily meets GNG and by listing various sources I can prove that. SusunW (talk) 14:05, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@SusunW: There has been a mass of AfD's specifically targeting articles on Indigenous people. If all 16 votes cast cite policy with five stating their subjective opinion is no, nine saying their subjective opinion is yes and two stating their subjective opinion leans keep but will agree to a redirect, how can the consensus be to delete? That is not a consensus. By definition, a consensus is a majority opinion. If the closer wants to base their decision on their own subjective opinion then so be it but don't say the consensus was to delete. That is disingenuous and leads others to doubt the integrity of the closer or even that of the encyclopedia and processes in general.Tsistunagiska (talk) 14:13, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Unfortunately, Tsistunagiska, this happens more often than you might think in cases when the closing administrator believes the "Keep" comments do not comply with rules established for the sector under consideration. One of the most common occurrences is in women's sports, especially for footballers, or if the sources are not considered to be sufficient. Is there any particular case we should be looking at? Sometimes decisions can be overruled, especially if articles can be expanded.--Ipigott (talk) 14:19, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@Ipigott: This AfD This individual IS Wounded Knee. There would have been no Wounded Knee without this person being present and the actions they took. And the "one event" argument doesn't hold any water with me when I found hundreds of articles about persons whose only "claim to fame" was one event. There is too much cherry picking here for my liking and quite frankly I'm tired of biased opinion overruling common sense. That's what Wikipedia is turning into. A bunch of biased opinions with no root in common sense. Either this is an encyclopedia that is inclusive of historical/current facts based in sourced references applied with some relative amount of common sense or a loosely tied bunch of OP-ED's favoring certain races, ethnicity and genders while furthering the discrimination against those who have historically faced it. As I have stated before, I acknowledge that Wikipedia is not here to right the wrongs of the past but to be an active and willing participant in furthering it is disgusting and discouraging, to say the least.Tsistunagiska (talk) 14:34, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
Tsistunagiska I would take it to the review board if you feel strongly about keeping it and start gathering sources. I don't know where that is, but I am sure if you go to the how to page for AfD's you can find it. I cannot see the previous article, so cannot help you evaluate it. One-event, is nonsense (Lawnchair Larry), as is the argument that anyone has to have done anything significant, i.e. Paris Hilton/Kim Kardashian, and your best defense is to write strong articles well founded in references. The problem for women and many minorities is references are difficult to find, they weren't studied by academics until the 1970s so there is little reference material except newspapers, which published for the most part mainstream news and ignored women, American Indians, Latinos, Asians, blacks, etc. etc. etc. In my early days on here I used to try to work at AfD, but I realized it is a time sink and has regular editors who have zero understanding that the history they were spoonfed was biased and selective. I'd rather spend my time creating and expanding articles with good referencing than try to argue about whether they have merit. SusunW (talk) 14:58, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

{od} @SusunW and Ipigott: We convinced Scotty to draftify the article to allow us to research and add sources as we find them. He graciously obliged. here is the draft.

Ugh Tsistunagiska, clearly in need of some attention. First off, why in the world would you use a clearly biased source from 1891 for anything? Perhaps as a footnote, certainly not in the body. "The relative accuracy of the sources must also be considered, for it is apparent that some of them are more credible than others", is a direct quote from this source about the events. I'd start with sources here and try to use only scholarly sources and delete anything that is web based unless you are sure of its authority. SusunW (talk) 21:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
@Netherzone, DiamondRemley39, Lightburst, Oncamera, and GreenC: See the above suggestions by SusunW. Susun, Thank you so much for taking time from researching your items to look for me. Let's see if any of the information contained helps our cause.Tsistunagiska (talk) 13:00, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello @SusunW: and @Ipigott:~! @Tsistunagiska: SunsunW is correct, that it is an !vote not a vote, meaning the consensus is based on the qualitative not quantitative value of the arguments & justification for keep and delete based on policy and guidelines. It's a debate. I left you a message on your talk page a few days ago (Heading: September/October 2020, don't know if you saw it) regarding some essays that are very helpful in deletion discussions, they are: Arguments to make in deletion discussions, Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, List of policies and guidelines to cite in deletion debates. In general, concise statements grounded in policy/guidelines rather than walls of lengthy text can be very effective. Netherzone (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Daisy Yen WuEdit

The most detailed sources about her are all in Chinese, but I think I've done okay. I did only put her publications in English in the selected works. Not sure about that decision. Your thoughts? If you have time to look it over, that'd be great. SusunW (talk) 20:45, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

SusunW: I think you've done a good job of combing the Chinese and English accounts. It might be worthwhile citing 营养概论 (Introduction to Nutrition, 1929) among the selected works.--Ipigott (talk) 09:17, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
Ipigott Thanks Ian. The original was published only in his name. He updated it in 1934?, I can find no record of the Taiwanese version. Should I list it as her editing it and him being the author? or just list the 1974 version (I do have a source for the publishing house) and list them as co-authors? SusunW (talk) 14:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
SusunW You could perhaps include a note with the above explanations, citing the original publication and the later version from 1974. It's really up to you.--Ipigott (talk) 14:33, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Danièle Aron-RosaEdit

1) I cannot believe no article has been written on her in French or English, but 2) I'm probably going to need some help, as you know I struggle with French. For instance, this says get it somewhere else? Also this (Italian) I believe says her heritage is Tunisian/Jewish? and does this say she married in May 1958? I wish I could find an article that says that, or frankly anything on her early life or career trajectory. Putting dates to places she worked would certainly help, as to my reading it is more promotional without concrete dates. Please feel free to jump in on it if you'd like. SusunW (talk) 19:25, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

SusunW: Yes, it certainly seems to indicate there is a photograph of her wedding in May 1958. I'm a bit tied up with visitors today. I'll see how it goes. If not, tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 08:45, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
No worries Ian, whenever is fine. SusunW (talk) 13:47, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
SusunW: Can't see there's anything about Danièle in the Italian piece. You can find more details here, showing she was born on 15 October 1934 in Tunis, married Jean-Jacques Aron in 1958, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 16:21, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
Yay! Thanks for the book reference. On the Italian piece, its on page 7 last column on the right. SusunW (talk) 16:31, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
With your lovely source, I was able to take it live. I didn't list publications, nor go into a lot of detail about her research, but there is enough there for someone to know who she is and hopefully someone who gets the medical part will be able to assist. Thank you so very much! SusunW (talk) 19:02, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Women's Football / Soccer Update > October 2020Edit

WP:WOSO News: October 2020

Chelsea striker Bethany England scoring the winning goal in the team's 2-1 win against Arsenal at the 2019–20 FA Women's League Cup, February 29, 2020.

Hello WOSO editors!

What a year to be alive. As usual (but perhaps even moreso since there have been unexpected quarantines), there has been a lot of activity on player, team, league and tournament-related Wikipedia articles with all of the worldwide coverage of women's football / soccer. Great work!

Fall Focus: FA WSL articles

You may have noticed lots of great things going on for the top English league this year: the FA WSL. More (international!) broadcasts, top international player signings, improved media coverage, and increased viewership. Let's keep the momentum brewing, shall we?

Here's a sampling of articles that could use creation, expansion or updating. What will you commit to working on?

Historical Topics

See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Women's football task force/Initiatives/FA WSL to collaborate and organize with other editors.

Every little bit helps! Thanks for your contributions!

Did you know...

WP:GNG takes precedence over WP:NFOOTY (which only includes the players in two currently active women's leagues)? Often times there is enough media coverage that meets WP:GNG or other notability guidelines. For more information, see WP:WOSO#Notability and be sure to tag the new article talk page with: {{WP Women's sport|footy=yes}}

Current and upcoming seasons for top-division leagues

Have some new articles in mind or see some that need improvement? Add them to the Open Tasks.

Was an article you worked on nominated for deletion? See:

Want some tips, assistance, or resources from other WOSO editors?
Leave a message on the task force talk page.

Thank you for your continued contributions to articles related to women's football / soccer (WOSO)!

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Can you archive your talk page, my iPad is super slow here, thanks. Looking about some of the famous polyglots typically take at least 2 years to become properly fluent (C1-2 level) in a language, longer for languages like Japanese and Hungarian. Most of the claims online about hours needed to attain it are grossly underestimated. 500 hours is nothing! A solid core can typically be achieved in a year. There's a big difference between deciphering text and being highly fluent at writing and speaking.† Encyclopædius 09:28, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Encyclopædius: Thanks for alerting me. I'll take care of it. The page seems to expand more and more quickly each time. But even with an iPad you should be able to jump to the bottom by using the TOC.
Around two years to become really fluent seems reasonable to me. The younger you are, the quicker it goes. I once coordinated an experiment teaching English to five-year-olds in France. It was amazing how well they could communicate after three or four months with sessions of just 30 minutes a day. Despite our success, there was no follow-up as there were so few primary school teachers in France who could speak English fluently (rather than just write and translate).
Moving from one language to a similar one (e.g. Spanish to Italian) is obviously much easier than trying to acquire a completely different language. I think Danish must be one of the easiest languages for English speakers to learn: lots of similar words, only two genders, far fewer verb forms than most other languages, quite a bit of flexibility in sentence structure, etc. I think most people find it difficult because of the pronunciation — they simply cannot understand what is said. And once you learn Danish, you can get by pretty well in Norwegian and even Swedish.--Ipigott (talk) 10:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Yes young children under 10 have an astounding capacity for learning which far exceeds adults, you'll find most of the world class classical musicians started very young, some as young as 3! As I've progressed I'm finding that forming sentences in speech and writing together is the only way I can really remember a lot of vocabulary long term, particularly in languages like German which have a huge amount of similarly spelled words. Short sentences comprising two or three words ot learn work best I think in the early stages to build vocabulary. Reading is a great way to build passive vocabulary and understanding but the real nitty gritty in my opinion is being able to recall and reproduce the words in the right contexts. Which takes a lot of time and means I have less time to spend on other languages. I will continue spending small amounts of time each week in reading and listening to the six languages I'm focusing on but I'm focusing on building my French up to an intermediate level at the moment and speaking a lot! Spanish I've reached a stage where I can understand a large amount of what is being said without subtitles, though varies on the speed and topic of discussion!† Encyclopædius 10:59, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Sentences like Je veux manger un morceau de poisson pour le déjeuner. Je suis très content de mes progrès! Je entendu une forte détonation! † Encyclopædius 11:13, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Request for an AfC declines rescue rewriteEdit

Hello, I used the Women in Red tool to find articles that were not accepted for creation. I didn't write the original but there were tons of reliable sources so I gave it a try to rewrite it. I have not myself ever successfully gotten an article through AfC and I would love to get some feedback on what I've got. Would you mind having a look and/or pointing me in the direction for more feedback in my Talk before I submit it? It's in my sandbox: [[1]] Thank you for your time and efforts. TheMusicExperimental (talk) 17:32, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Confessions of a Talk Page Stalker - @TheMusicExperimental:I found the article you wrote enlightening, especially when looking at the sources and doing a search myself. I avoid the AfC process. if possible. A lot of reviewers think an article should be ready to nominate for "GA" status in order for it to be accepted. That's just my opinion, of course. The article has an uphill climb to make, unfortunately, in today's Wikipedia universe. I'd fight for it though. How many skaters have an exhibit in the Smithsonian? That's so cool. There is a "war" in this encyclopedia between deletionist/purist and inclusionist/realist that is constant. I would write as well an article as I could. Cite as many independent sources with a splash of primary sources {if found). You did good asking for help. No one better than those in WIR project. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
@Tsistunagiska: thank you for taking the time to read it! I'm on the fence re: AfC as well. I feel like if I can get it through the AfC then it will be less likely to get immediately be-trolled with GNG/AfDs. I may be wrong though. Either way, I'm appreciative of any and all feedback on making it good to help get it to the finish line. TheMusicExperimental (talk) 17:54, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

Influential womenEdit

I don't know if any of these names have your interest but Berlingske has an annual list of the Most Influential Danish Women. The 2019 list is behind a paywall but the 2018list is immediately accessible to all. Forgive me for posting it here and not on the crowd-sourced list but I didn't want to engage in listing individual names since I don't known which one of them (if any) you might find interesting. Mette Reissmann may btw also soon be relevant in case she ends up as Soc.'s final candidate for the position as Lord Mayor of Copenhagen at next year's s municipal election.Ramblersen2 (talk) 12:29, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Ramblersen2: Thanks for this. Those in politics probably already have articles. I'll have a closer look at them in a day or two. However, as you may have noticed, I am more comfortable writing the biographies of women who are no longer living. Next time we subscribe to Berlingske, I'll have a look at the 2019 list too.--Ipigott (talk) 12:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Ramblersen2: In connection with Reissmann, I've just been looking at the article on Frank Jensen. It seems to me as if it could be significantly improved, especially in connection with his ten-year term as Copenhagen's mayor.--Ipigott (talk) 13:14, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
True. But I too prefer dead people (that sounds SO wrong!) and I'm in general not too keen on engaging in work on politicians either since the list of biographies of people from more interesting industries (mainly architects and artists) that I would like to expand is already horribly long. And I'm also haunted by a wish to make a somewhat decent start on an English-language article about Landboreformerne (which it would be useful to be able to link to in literally thousands of articles about villages, manor houses etc) but find it a rather overwhelming and unmanageable job and therefore keep postponing it. So I think I will leave it to others to give Frank Jensen a makeover. But maybe I'll get around to making some minor improvements at some point.Ramblersen2 (talk) 15:04, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

November edit-a-thons from Women in RedEdit

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October harvestEdit


beautiful Main page today, don't miss the pic by a blocked user (of a 2013 play critical of refugee politics), nor a related video, interviews mostly German, but music and scene. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:19, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt: Thanks for alerting me. You have certainly put together an interesting article on Katrin Lea Tag. The user you refer to has been blocked from the EN wiki but apparently not from Commons or the image would not have survived. I hope you will be inspired to create more bios of scenic designers and back-stage people in opera under November's Stage+Screen+Radio+Podcast. We need to expand our coverage of behind-the-scenes women. Did you notice that Smerus has become a member of WiR? It will be interesting to see how he contributes. The priority of the moment is of course Fanny Mendelssohn.--Ipigott (talk) 08:07, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I smiled when I red the WiR November newsletter, - as if I had known. I saw Tag's work in three productions (four operas, more on my talk), and found it fascinating. - Thank goodness images are not deleted just because their author was found socking. - Fanny Hensel is interesting! - Would we say Clara Wieck after she married?--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt: That's certainly a powerful argument. I also note that in the German-speaking countries there seems to be far wider understanding of Fanny Hensel. As for the English-speakers, they seem to want to preserve the Mendelssohn connection. Perhaps the article should have a section on the naming controversy. You could suggest it under the peer review.--Ipigott (talk) 08:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
I said it all in the move request, which went by WiR. It actually doesn't matter how the article is named, as long as we don't confuse readers by "Mendelssohn published" or "She published" when before Mendelssohn, while the title page of her Opus 1 (visible in the article) has Hensel in big letters, and nèe in small. - For me, that would clearly indicate HER will to be called, but Wikipedia goes by COMMON NAME, - a bit disrespectful I think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!Edit

  'Women in Red Women in Asia contest October
Ipigott - Thank you for your participation! (11 articles) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:44, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
WomenArtistUpdates: Thank you for the wonderful barnstars and for recognizing the participants.--Ipigott (talk) 07:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

thank you also from me, - and the Asian woman with some looks from me was on DYK a few days ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:32, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

The Months of African Cinema Contest Continues in November!Edit


Thank you very much for participating in the Months of African Cinema global contest/edit-a-thon, and thank you for your contributions so far.

It is already the middle of the contest and a lot have been achieved already! We have been able to get over 1,500 articles created in over fifteen (15) languages! This would not have been possible without your support and we want to thank you. If you have not yet listed your name as a participant in the contest page please do so.

Please make sure to list the articles you have created or improved in the article achievements' section of the contest page, so that they can be easily tracked. To be able to claim prizes, please also ensure to list your articles on the users by articles page. We would be awarding prizes to different categories of winners:

  • Overall winner
    • 1st - $500
    • 2nd - $200
    • 3rd - $100
  • Diversity winner - $100
  • Gender-gap filler - $100
  • Language Winners - up to $100*

We are very excited about what has been achieved so far, but your contributions are still needed to further exceed all expectations! Let’s create more articles before the end of this contest, which is this November!!!

Thank you once again for being part of this global event! --Jamie Tubers (talk) 10:30, 06 November 2020 (UTC)

You can opt-out of this annual reminder from The Afrocine Project by removing your username from this list

Hi Ipigott! I was wondering if you could help me with something. I recently created a page (Jack Schwadron) and it was nominated for deletion. I have 46+ credible sources listed. I wrote back to them on the talk page and explained this, but another user collapsed my comments. Why would he do that and do you know if its possible to undo this action? Also wondering if you could help show me how I can vote to keep for my page. So crazy how this has all happened - wikipedia is wild! Thanks in advance <3 BigMusicBaby (talk) 22:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, BigMusicBaby, for alerting me on this. It might be too late to prevent deletion but I have added Keep to the deletion discussion (which shows you how you can take part in other deletion discussions). It's a pity you did not let me know earlier as the seven days for reactions has now elapsed. As for the collapsed text, I wouldn't worry about it too much. It can still be seen and appears in full in edit mode. In any case, I'm happy to see that A Beautiful Noise seems to be OK.--Ipigott (talk) 10:00, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Wiki/Women/Womxn Meet Up for Movement Strategy ImplementationEdit

Uggghhhhhh...I would so love to do this. I am away from home almost every weekend now and it's getting difficult to do my Winter routine and be here at the same time. I was telling Susun that I may have to pause being a Wikipedian until March or April of 2021. That's when we are getting ready for the thaw. The nights are getting so long and soon the sun won't even rise above the horizon. I am going to hold on as long as I can though. If I disappear one day just look for my return next Spring. :) --Tsistunagiska (talk) 17:20, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Tsistunagiska: That looks as if you are north of the Arctic circle. Here in Denmark the days get pretty short at this time of year but we do still see the sun from time to time. That looks like a good guess. I've just been looking at your informative article on Chilkat State Park. In any case, enjoy your hibernation. We look forward to your return when it gets a little warmer.--Ipigott (talk) 08:33, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind words. We are about 40 miles+ above the edge of the circle. It was -29c this morning. Today's high is -23c. We will have a heat wave later this week when it warms to -14c. Good times!! I so appreciate my wood stoves. Melting some ice this morning for water to cook with. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 14:29, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
I grew up a lot further south near Chilkat in Haines, AK. Lived there from about 13 years old until the Summer of 2018 when we moved here. --Tsistunagiska (talk) 14:31, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Women in RedEdit

Hi Ipigott, thank you for your kind words. I do plan to get back creating more biographies. At the moment, I am overseeing the WikiGap Pakistan Challenge but once I am free will start again. Regards Khilari&historian (talk) 17:46, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Khilari&historian: That sounds interesting. Have you noticed we are now running our Women in Asia contest?--Ipigott (talk) 19:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I would have participated if I was not overseeing the WikiGap. I have mentioned it to the WikiGap participants lets see if any work on it. Regards Khilari&historian (talk) 20:56, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Sophie Howe and othersEdit

Many thanks for reviewing the pages I've made recently - Sophie Howe, Minette Batters and so on. Very much appreciated. To explain what I'm doing, I'm working my way through the BBC Radio 4 Women's Hour Power List 2020 announced on 16 November. Of the 30, 17 were not mentioned in Wikipedia. I am working through, and if they are sufficiently notable, staring a page for each.--MerielGJones (talk) 13:12, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

MerielGJones: It's been a pleasure for me to look through your well presented, informative biographies, especially as most of them are about women. In this connection, I was wondering if you would not like to become a member of Women in Red where we are trying to chip away at the dominance of the coverage of men on Wikipedia. I think you could help us along and perhaps encourage others to participate. If so, you can register as a member in the box at the top of wp:Women in Red. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 16:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I appreciate your kind comments. I have looked at the WiR pages on-and-off for some time, especially the talk page. Do I have to do something in particular if I become a member of Women in Red?--MerielGJones (talk) 19:38, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
MerielGJones: There are no obligations and on the basis of your contributions to women's biographies, you are already doing more than most members. As a member, you'll be posted from time to time on our evolving priorities. I think you'll find it a hospitable community. I've also been assessing many of your past articles. You can see from here that about half of them have reached C class. That's quite an achievement.--Ipigott (talk) 07:48, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
OK, I will sign up to WiR! Thanks for assessing my past articles.--MerielGJones (talk) 22:13, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Women's poll tax repeal movementEdit

I haven't taken it live yet as we are still trying to get the redlinks done and I am still trying to find someone who works on women's history to review it, but it has stabilized and I think we have the organizational part done. Trying to figure out what goes where in it was challenging. I'm shooting to nominate it on the 25th, so if you could look it over and give it a copyedit that would be wonderful. If you don't have time, I get it. Thanks so much. SusunW (talk) 14:32, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

I'll have time to take a good look at it tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 16:23, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
I'm having difficulty with the sentence "For black women, suffrage was only a part of the struggle to eliminate inequality. Members of the National Association of Colored Women's Clubs campaigned against Jim Crow laws (legal statues regulating and enforcing racial segregation in the United States), lynching, peonage, and in favor of voting." It doesn't seem to hang together.--Ipigott (talk) 09:42, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
You need to assign the quote "sell democracy to the Third World was seriously hampered by continuing racial injustice at home".--Ipigott (talk) 10:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
I think I've now done what I can with copy editing. It's certainly an extremely detailed and informative article but I think it needs a more clearly worded section on the Harper v. Virginia ruling which put a final end to the poll tax requirements. It is well expressed in the lead but not so much in the body of the article. I was also wondering whether it would be possible to find more images, perhaps some of demonstrations or the outcome of court cases, etc. Maybe some could be found in the press. I look forward to seeing the article on mainspace and hope you can promote it to GA and then FA. It also occurred to me that Megalibrarygirl could draw on the article to enhance all the lists and timelines she has been putting together on suffrage state by state.--Ipigott (talk) 11:20, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank you so much Ian. I'll look at those things today. As for images, I am working on finding more. I really, really, really want to use this as the lede image. I know that the AP Wirephoto did not copyright it, but the problem is proving whether it was published in 1966. So far, I only find this cropped one, which loses the beauty of the words above her head. I've written to her daughter and have asked Ser Amantio di Nicolao about leads for Virginia archives which might help determine if it was published. He also said he would work on a category, but he just got back from vacation, so it had to take a back seat to RL work. SusunW (talk) 13:53, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

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Susan B. Anthony IIEdit

Last one from the poll tax redlist. I think she easily qualifies for a GA. If you have time and the inclination, could you give it a copyedit? Thank you so much. SusunW (talk) 19:22, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

SusunW: I've been through this but there was not much to change in copy editing. However I think you could perhaps provide a few more details on her involvement in the poll tax issues. For example, in Women's poll tax repeal movement, you explain that Pepper's bill failed but you do not mention this in the biography. According to Wilkerson-Freeman, she also appears to have been active in Alabama. Anything of note there?--Ipigott (talk) 10:31, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Ian. Can do, and your note also reminded me to try to find something about her work in desegregation. She specifically mentioned it was concerning housing. I found it astonishing that she was involved in the 1940s in that. However did a rich white woman from Pennsylvania become involved in that? Wish I could find a way to access her autobiography. Let me see what I can do. SusunW (talk) 15:16, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, someone left a note on my talk page telling me not to add my new articles to the Metrics pages because the bot will take care of it. But I see that you have been adding articles. Should I continue adding pages as I create them? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:55, 1 December 2020 (UTC)