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Proposed deletion of Hoàng Quang ThuậnEdit

 

The article Hoàng Quang Thuận has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

non-notable person, the Vietnamese wiki page is already deleted, the sources only mention the plagiarism

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BulkingtonEdit

Following on from User talk:In ictu oculi/Archive 2019#Is/was test = what do you make of Bulkington now? At the previous discussion it was noted that the character didn't have an article, that came up most with the test but an article now exists at Bulkington (character Moby-Dick). Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Joseph Spaniola for deletionEdit

 

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Joseph Spaniola is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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DiscussionEdit

Hello. Please see this discussion. Bionic (talk) 18:01, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

KauffnerEdit

You might also wish to add your comments at the mass move discussion at Talk:Nguyễn Văn Thiệu#Requested move 13 August 2020 regards Mztourist (talk) 09:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

"Whine" listed at Redirects for discussionEdit

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Ford RMEdit

Do you think its worth opening a SPI due to all the "support" !votes from the IPs? Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:32, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, but I don't think SPIs cover IPs do they? In ictu oculi (talk)

The RanchEdit

Hi IIO, Just to let you know, I have moved the page as requested by B2C at WP:RMTR. In doing that I was not specifically endorsing the closure, or indeed rejecting it. It's just that I think if you want to challenge it, rather than holding up the move at RMTR, to go through the normal process of requesting a review on the B2C's talk page and then taking it to WP:MRV if you still want to challenge it. That way other editors can weigh in on whether it was or was not a legitimate NAC. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 13:03, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for message. I have requested twice and B2C has refused. I think Move Review only works in exceptionally bad cases, not just not good closes. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:06, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
Well, let's be honest, disregarding the procedural issue I think the close is defensible. Even though there was an even split of !votes, the supporters made more of a case than the opposers did - the page views were mentioned several times in support, but the claim that the older film has greater long-term significance was not really backed up with evidence. I think if I had to give an opinion I'd say this was in fact a good close. You could argue that WP:RMNAC was not followed because it was a close call and should have been left for an admin, but that argument doesn't always get supported at MRV. Either way I don't think it would be appropriate for me to overturn B2C's close unilaterally.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:11, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
For the record, my discussion with IIO immediately follows the RM I closed now at Talk:The_Ranch#Requested_move_17_August_2020. —-В²C 19:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Xavier Jamaux for deletionEdit

 

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Orphaned non-free image File:The Fool (Raffi novel).jpgEdit

 

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FordEdit

Given that the company RM was closed as no consensus I think we need a new RM for the DAB. As you can see the one I filed in 2018 failed with only 1 support (who also supported moving the company to the shorter name and filed the same move in 2009). If you file it it might carry more weight but given a number of people who opposed to the company move did so based on the point that there is no primary topic (4 explicitly argued moving the DAB) we hopefully might get more support this time. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:00, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I think you have a point. But with the Indonesia-based IPs and socks around at the moment leaving it a few months might be advisable In ictu oculi (talk) 19:24, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

The Carrier Pidgin referenceEdit

Hello. You added a reference from The Carrier Pidgin (TCP) 5 years ago. I checked the number 21 and 22 of TCP and their issues, which can be found here, and I could not find any mention of this Bible. Could you check if you can find where you first saw this information; if you do not find the information, please remove the it from the article, however if you find it then please precise in which number and in which issue of the journal you found this information. Thanks in advance! Veverve (talk) 01:11, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

If you do not confirm your source, I will remove it along with the information it supports. Veverve (talk) 09:33, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I removed the info. Veverve (talk) 01:27, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

"No other article"Edit

I though Station1 had stopped making plain "no other article" arguments contrary to WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT without any other rationalization like at Talk:Murder in Texas#Requested move 30 June 2020 after the discussion with BrownHairedGirl at User talk:BrownHairedGirl/Archive/Archive 059#There comes a time, obviously not. Crouch, Swale (talk) 18:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

As you say obviously not. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:04, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
And its interesting to look at Talk:Oblivious#Requested move 18 October 2020 (the only case I've every known when I have favoured having a primary topic but Station has favoured no primary topic) where the statement "Oblivious would be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to a different word, so would need to show most readers clearly looking for that other topic" again seems to be focusing on the title not topic and while the 2nd half of the sentence is true it applies to all primary topics not just those that have a different title. That is to say with Novae, Peanuts and Nightcaps we do need to show that readers are far more likely to be looking for the definite topic rather than the general meaning. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:06, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Kim Liên PagodaEdit

 

The article Kim Liên Pagoda has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Bruno TurnerEdit

Hello - I noticed that you participated in the first AfD for this musician, and seemed to have access to some musicological resources that I do not currently have. I'm not asking you to participate in the AfD (per WP:CANVASS), but I wondered if you might be able to provide or point me to additional sources beyond Grove to substantiate Turner's prominence among English early music scholars, because I believe you were right about him the first time, and the wave of "delete"s is such that I am probably going to need a raft of sources to WP:HEY people. Chubbles (talk) 05:09, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying me. I choose to participate as I certainly should have been notified having been in previous AfD. But more importantly: staggeringly incompetent that !voters could miss that the subject has a larger bio in The New Grove. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Han tuEdit

Hi. I'm contacting you as I can't think of anyone else who edits/has edited VN articles in the recent past. Were there any previous discussions about using han tu on contemporary personalities. It seems generally accepted not to do it, but I can't think of any notable discussion about it Bumbubookworm (talk) 20:59, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

It came up once or twice in relation to Vietnamese celebs with some fame/notability/connection to modern China / Hong Kong /Singapore. But that's the only thing I remember. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:29, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Alexander VedernikovEdit

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Speedy deletion nomination of Edward RosensteinEdit

 

A tag has been placed on Edward Rosenstein requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

I don't think it's necessary to have this disambiguation page. There is no page yet for Eddie Rosenstein the filmmaker (if he's notable enough to have one), and I'm currently creating a page for Edward Rosenstein the politician.

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Yes, no objection Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Eddie_Rosenstein. Provided your politician passes notability. I was just cleaning up after a deletion. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:46, 31 October 2020 (UTC) My politician, Edward Rosenstein, does pass notability. And I finished writing his article, but I don't want to release it until after the disambiguation page is deleted. Rhaegar I (talk) 15:13, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

that's not the way it works normally. But whatever I have no interest in either subject. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 12:40, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

PlantersEdit

You made a number of edits that appear to have been attempting to file a RM, are you actually going to file one? While there were reasonable arguments against the move I do think its a NOPRIMARY case and the DAB is the best compromise. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:19, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

Yes, for some reason the template wouldn't take. As far as I can see from sources planters means planters, except in US where the peanuts are a brand. A DAB would also be acceptable, as a concession to US based readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:16, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
{{subst:requested move|Planters (company)|reason=Reason.}} will do it. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:22, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

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I imagine you'll be as surprised as I was to find that Captain Calm was a BKFIP sockEdit

I chatted with him a while ago and you gave him some baklava.[1] Doug Weller talk 16:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, @Doug Weller: BKFIP rings a bell, do you have the SPI archive link? I'll take back that baklava though probably stale now. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:18, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Best known for IP/Archive but not updated. Doug Weller talk 16:21, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Quacking loudly. Thanks for heads up. Though I'm pretty intermittent here these days. Cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:25, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

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User:In ictu oculi But this is the official name she uses in her social media accounts and stop lying if you see all the news says Sara Arfeen Khan and she is not a film actress but a television actress. So you are completely wrong here. Sara Khan should completely need to change — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:4C8:B4:5056:E4E6:291F:4E04:FEE7 (talk) 10:04, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Chasing Dreams (film) for deletionEdit

 

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DonizettiEdit

Re the opera title: what does it tell you that the French Wikipedia has "Ange", not "ange". No need to refer to pop ;) - This was mentioned in the discussion. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

That French wikipedia is not a reliable source. In ictu oculi (talk) 16:17, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Sure, only, sometimes the German Wikipedia is more "English" than the English, and in this case, the English Wikipedia seems to be more French then the French. We had the same discussion - with two French users - for La Damnation de Faust, and gave up. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

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New Page Patrol December NewsletterEdit

Hello In ictu oculi,

 

Year in review

It has been a productive year for New Page Patrol as we've roughly cut the size of the New Page Patrol queue in half this year. We have been fortunate to have a lot of great work done by Rosguill who was the reviewer of the most pages and redirects this past year. Thanks and credit go to JTtheOG and Onel5969 who join Rosguill in repeating in the top 10 from last year. Thanks to John B123, Hughesdarren, and Mccapra who all got the NPR permission this year and joined the top 10. Also new to the top ten is DannyS712 bot III, programmed by DannyS712 which has helped to dramatically reduce the number of redirects that have needed human patrolling by patrolling certain types of redirects (e.g. for differences in accents) and by also patrolling editors who are on on the redirect whitelist.

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8 Mccapra (talk) 4,918 Patrol Page Curation
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John B123 has been named reviewer of the year for 2020. John has held the permission for just over 6 months and in that time has helped cut into the queue by reviewing more than 18,000 articles. His talk page shows his efforts to communicate with users, upholding NPP's goal of nurturing new users and quality over quantity.

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As a special recognition and thank you DannyS712 has been awarded the first NPP Technical Achievement Award. His work programming the bot has helped us patrol redirects tremendously - more than 60,000 redirects this past year. This has been a large contribution to New Page Patrol and definitely is worthy of recognition.

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Braunfels operasEdit

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