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@Display name 99: Hi Display name 99, I'm MagicatthemovieS. You might remember me - you passed my nomination of the Gospel of Jesus' Wife as a good article. Since we work well together, I was wondering f you might like to check out two articles which I recently nominated to reach good article status - Gerald Ford assassination attempt in Sacramento and Tawana Brawley rape allegations. Let me know if you are interested in either article or both of them.
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Undid your reversion because it appears to have been performed in error—the passage in question concerns Andrew Jackson, not John C. Calhoun.
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As you've presumably noticed, I've indefinitely blocked you for this comment, which I assume you realize was beyond the pale by any standard. As I've said at ANI, and made clear in the block log as well, this is explicitly indefinite in the sense of "for an indefinite period" not "for ever", and as soon as you can convince anyone that tempers have cooled down I give leave to anyone to lift this block.
To be clear, I am not blocking you for your political views. Wikipedia is a broad church, and support for Donald Trump is certainly not a fringe view (as 70-ish million voters testify). Indeed, even if it were a fringe view it would still not be block-worthy; we have numerous editors who are open supporters of terrorist groups, violent nationalist/separatist movements, groups which are widely considered racist, left- and right-wing extremism, and so on. What differs here is that these editors appreciate that they're sharing the site with people who don't share their opinions.
In my view, the comment linked above, and the other comments mentioned at the ANI thread, cross over a line. In my view they're potentially intimidating people who don't share your views from participating in discussions, and what's more important you were aware that they were potentially intimidating people who don't share your views from participating in discussions, and as such are unacceptable.
These are heated times, and given your history I have no reason to doubt that you're here in good faith and that recent events have been a one-off episode stemming from frustration rather than malice on your part. While I can't speak for the other participants in that thread, I certainly don't want to lose you provided you're willing to tone it down and respect other people's views even when you disagree with them. ‑ Iridescent 05:08, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your message Iridescent. I'm not sure if we've ever directly interacted before, but I recognize your username from somewhere. I have not been trying to intimidate anyone from participating in discussions. Rather, that very thing has been what happens to any editors who happen to express conservative views on Wikipedia. I'm not a supporter of Trump; I disapprove of many of his policies and I voted write-in in the recent election. But I am a paleoconservative nationalist, and while I do not need to get into specifics, many of the beliefs that I hold are indeed fringe. Your statements to the contrary not withstanding, many editors in the thread stated that they did not want people editing Wikipedia who held fringe views, even if they completely avoided modern political topics. Your position is that which is in line with Wikipedia guidelines, but theirs has a large following.
- Nearly every editor who voted in the discussion who did not support an indefinite block called for a topic ban on post-1932 American politics. As stated, this is something that I would refuse to abide by. It would be an insult to edit Wikipedia under such a sanction because I have not done anything wrong. I had assumed that making this statement would lead editors who had supported a topic ban to change their votes to supporting indefinite blocks, and an adminstrator would then follow the consensus and block me. Of course, things turned out a little differently than I had planned, that of course being my fault, but I was still blocked in the end, which I don't mind at all considering that the alternative was to edit under an insulting and dishonorable sanction.
I don't know youEdit
DN99, I don't think we have ever interacted. I hate to see a long time editor who clearly has an enviable editing record get chewed up and spit out. I think something that is being left out of many discussions is that real people on all side of the political spectrum are very frustrated these days. I think this is made far worse with COVID and the impact it and the restrictions have had on all our lives. I looked at your offending comment. I don't agree but I can certainly see how a person could feel that way. Anyway, I would hate to see an editor who's record far surpasses my own burn out and leave. I hope that a bit of time will help heal all this and we can pull some of the emotions back and people can be a bit more dispassionate about these topics. Take a break, don't do anything you wouldn't do in person* or will regret later. I hope you aren't going for good. *I say that but I doubt I would be willing to make a comment like this in person. As someone told me, stay safe and stay sane. The latter is probably the harder one. Springee (talk) 18:21, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
- Springee, thank you for your note. I appreciate you taking the time to write it out. I have no intention of returning to editing. There were a considerable number of people, I'd say slightly under half of all respondents, who were calling for an indefinite block even before I made the comment which ultimately resulted in me getting one. Nearly everyone else wanted a topic ban. I recognize that I likely could have saved my editing future by promsing to abide by a topic ban. I would not do that because it would be a humiliation to edit under an unjust sanction. Perhaps I even could have avoided the topic ban with an apology or a voluntary promise to step away from political articles for a while. However, I did not feel that I had done anything to warrant that. Accepting an indefinite block and stepping away is the only way to keep my honor in tact. I have no intention of asking for it to be lifted. Best, Display name 99 (talk)
- Per what Springee said. We've never interacted, but I've seen it all too well. I'm sure you have also. Long-term constructive editors blocked for something so trivial. Just one small outburst from you and then blocked indefinitely. It seems Wikipedia isn't much of a safe place anymore for people who's views differ from others. Anyways, thank you for all of your contributions. Goodbye friend and please do keep safe and sane. I'm sure you can do it, after all, you did last this long editing. Jerm (talk) 00:42, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you Jerm. That said, as I already explained, I was headed towards an indefinite block even before the outburst. This is because a large number of editors believed that expressing controversial opinions on talk pages was grounds for an indefinite block with no prior warning, and even those who didn't mostly thought that it was grounds for an immediate topic ban. My coffin was already built; my quickly-deleted outburst was just the nail. I appreciate the message and I wish you all the best. Display name 99 (talk) 00:58, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you today for John C. Breckinridge, who "was an American statesman who served as vice president in the administration of James Buchanan. Though he had previously taken a moderate view on slavery, Breckinridge eventually came to believe that the Kansas Territory should legalize it before becoming a state. He was nominated by the Southern wing of the Democratic Party for president in 1860. He lost to Lincoln. He eventually ended up serving as a Confederate major general and as the Confederacy's final secretary of war."! -- Bad timing, it seems. I didn't follow the above story, saw only the top of the iceberg. I'd miss you, but perhaps check in in a year. I gave up my pride and appealed after two years. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:12, 16 January 2021 (UTC)