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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Nass BholariEdit

in re: User:Nass Bholari (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs); see also User

A tag has been placed on User:Nass Bholari requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Minorax (talk) 12:19, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

@Minorax: Thanks for letting me know. I created that page with a {{Sockpuppet}} warning on August 12. It was later deleted after the user used it to reproduce material which currently exists at Draft:N. A. Seraj Shekshor. I have restored the original sockpuppet warning and the associated category. – Athaenara 19:00, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Ah ok. Thanks :) --Minorax (talk) 04:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Deletion review for Draft:Typical GamerEdit

in re: Draft:Typical Gamer (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Some random IP has asked for a deletion review of Draft:Typical Gamer. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. —Cryptic 10:03, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

@Cryptic: Undeleted for discussion. – Athaenara 12:56, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Samantha Potter (artist)Edit

in re: User:Spacegeek31/Spacegeek31:Drafts/Samantha Potter(Artist) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
see also: Samantha Potter(Artist) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (AfD)

Request for email of deleted article contents

Hi, you recently deleted the following draft, can you send me an email of the source of it for reference? Thanks. User:Spacegeek31/Spacegeek31:Drafts/Samantha Potter(Artist) Spacegeek31 (talk) 12:50, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Spacegeek31: It would not be appropriate to do so. The page was pure spam (see WP:SPAM, if you like, for a refresher on what that means) with no independent reliable sources at all. It could not serve as the basis of an encyclopedia article, hence it would be entirely inappropriate to generate copies. – Athaenara 07:30, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
@Athaenara: That is understandable, and I get why you wouldn't want to do that, however, I wouldn't be using it on Wikipedia, I would be using it on my own platform that I am making. Spacegeek31 (talk) 13:25, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Nancy XuEdit

in re: Nancy Xu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Draft:Nancy Xu (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Draft:Nanxy Xu (2) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), and Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/Archive 350#Draft:Nancy Xu

Hello, Athaenara. I see you deleted Draft:Nancy Xu; could you please restore it because she is one of the Strictly Come Dancing professionals and almost certainly meets WP:GNG? If there any useful revisions at either Nancy Xu or Draft:Nancy Xu (2), please also restore them to the same place. Thank you. --Launchballer 13:13, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

@Launchballer: See Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion/G13. – Athaenara 21:26, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Mata Sudiksha PageEdit

in re: Draft:Mata Sudiksha (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Athaenara, I drafted page but it was deleted due to G11. I searched wikipedia for other spiritual leaders from India. I tried to follow the same pattern. Can you give me specific text which sounded like advertisement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nogreat (talkcontribs) 17:16, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Ron RossnickEdit

in re: Draft:Ron Rossnick (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Re: Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Ron Rossnick

Hi Athaenara

My page for [Rossnick] was deleted under G11 ambiguous promotion. If I could have more insight regarding how I can fix this issue, please let me know. Thank you for your feedback Aburgers333 (talk) 20:53, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

  • @Aburgers333: The most immediately obvious problem is that the page you wrote cited no independent reliable sources and, even worse, listed linkedin, soundcloud, youtube, imdb, and channelstore.roku links obviously intended to promote your client and his wares. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not an advertising service. – Athaenara 09:40, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Signature ArtEdit

Hello, I have been looking at your great Signature Art Galleries and would like to borrow complex ideas from some of those creative people. But the "Signature" section at my Preferences page only allows 255 characters of HTML code; the signature you see below almost maxes me out at 232 characters. However, some of the most artistic signatures have much more than 255, and the famous SonicChao has more than 500. Do you know how those artists do this? I see nothing about exceeding the 255 at Wikipedia:Signatures or in related guidelines. Thanks for your time. ––DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 01:38, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

  • @Doomsdayer520: My galleries are just art installations. I've never been involved in signature policies or guidelines, past or present, and I don't have the technical expertise to find ways to shoehorn 500+ character signature markup into something less than 255. I'm not saying nobody should try, I'm just saying I don't have that. – Athaenara 09:48, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Adaku UtahEdit

in re: User:2dmaxo/Adaku Utah (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) Draft:Adaku Utah (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs), Adaku Utah (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Deletion of Adaku Utah draft page

Hello Athaenara. The creation of User:2dmaxo/Adaku Utah is in line with the competition call to create biographical articles for some selected persons (selection not made by my person) by editors outside the USA I entered for. It is called September BLT Writing Contest and would end by September 30. By your administrative action (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion), the article page was still under creation and undergoing edits and your decision may hamper my efforts to stand a chance to win the competition as I had created Sam Nhlengethwa already and working on the User:2dmaxo/Adaku Utah draft page. Kindly advise next steps. Regards! 2dmaxo (talk) 21:35, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Hello Athaenara. Still on the section (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion) of the criteria for speedy deletion tag on User:2dmaxo/Adaku Utah, I have stated reason on article talk page as directed. However, article is ready and I intend to move it to the main userspace, kindly advise if it okay to proceed. Many thanks. 2dmaxo (talk) 07:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
@2dmaxo: It looks like WP:SPAM to me that, as such, should not be in Wikipedia article space (my opinion, you may wish to seek others). Your "BLT writing contest" link didn't connect to anything I could read, so I don't know what it would have contributed to this discussion. – Athaenara 09:26, 18 September 2020 (UTC) (Later duckduckgo'd "BLT writing contest" and found Wikipedia:Meetup/Black Lunch Table/September2020-BLT Contest.) 10:00, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
@Athaenara: Glad you finally got through with the BLT link. However, Celestina007 had done a wonderful job in cleaning up the article to be fit for main article space, while BrownHairedGirl had tagged it with user sandbox. Thanks! 2dmaxo (talk) 11:10, 19 September 2020 (UTC)


in re: Razorpay (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
see also: Draft:Razorpay (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Request for revision and revoke the deletion of the company page 'Razorpay'


The page 'Razorpay' was deleted on 22 July 2019 due to (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: tagged "this article is an ad written by the company to increae their reputation as a part of social marketing")

I would like to revise the content of this page to remove any promotional content and get this back up that will be useful for people who want to access this information.

Kindly make the old page viewable to me so that I can make the revisions and request you to review it again and check for adherence of all guidelines. Other than, that if there's anything else you'd like me to add or structure needed to make the page better - do let me know.

Looking forward to bettering the community.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akmal.zamrood (talkcontribs) 06:31, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of START-PROF pageEdit

in re: START-PROF (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Please undelete the START-PROF page. It doesn't violate any rules. It is translation based on this page: All independent sources proving the significance of START-PROF was added to Russian language page. It can be added into English page too if needed. Please note that the same page ROHR2 was not deleted: Please explain the difference between ROHR2 and START-PROF pages from wikipedia rules point of view Alex1343653 (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

@Alex1343653: That page you wrote was mostly a lengthy series of descriptions of functions such as one might reasonably expect to find on the product's own website, not in an encyclopedia article. I agree with the {{db-g11}} tag which 1292simon added at 25 September 2020, at 07:58 (UTC). – Athaenara 01:09, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Rafael Mikhailovich MinasbekyanEdit

in re: Rafael Mikhailovich Minasbekyan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (deletion review)


Hello. You have deleted my article - Rafael Mikhailovich Minasbekyan. The article was removed for advertising purposes. I unsubscribed to the discussion page of this article with argumentation, but you deleted this article without discussion. Could you restore the article and put it up for discussion for deletion. I believe that the advertising style can be removed, because the importance of the article is observed. Thanks. Namerst (talk) 08:37, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

@Namerst: It reads like a paid publicity piece or a résumé, not an encyclopedia article, and it's not your first contribution of that sort to Wikipedia. I don't undelete such pages. – Athaenara 13:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Salt Soumya GhoshEdit

in re: Soumya Ghosh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I guess this title should be salted as well because it has been timely re-created. Consider it? ─ The Aafī (talk) 08:04, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@TheAafi: Perhaps it should be, but I'm thinking it's a bit soon for that as it's been created only twice and the first time was ten years ago. – Athaenara 08:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Undeleting Ramdas Padhye PageEdit

in re: Ramdas Padhye (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
see also: Draft:Ramdas Padhye (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Request for revision and revoke the deletion of the company page 'Ramdas Padhye'


The page 'Ramdas Padhye' was deleted on 30th September 2020 due to (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

I would like to revise the content of this page to remove any promotional content and get this back up that will be useful for people who want to access this information.

Kindly make the old page viewable to me so that I or experienced editors can make the revisions and request you to review it again and check for adherence of all guidelines. Other than, that if there's anything else you'd like me to add or structure needed to make the page better - do let me know.

Looking forward to bettering the community.

Thanks Indiapuppet (talk) 10:44, 1 October 2020 (UTC)IndiaPuppet

Happy First Edit Day!Edit

Happy First Edit Day!Edit

Balloons-aj.svg Hey, Athaenara. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
Megan☺️ Talk to the monster 06:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Emiway BantaiEdit

Please Sir

Sir, The title Sir Emiway Bantai is protected by administrators. So I made a draft titled Emiway Bantai (rapper). But later I came to know that this title is also protected. I request you to review the Draft:Emiway Bantai (rapper) and publish its correct title in Emiway Bantai. (talk) 06:30, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Athaenara isn't a Sir, and who are you? I don't need to know exactly who you are, but I need to know whether you are somebody connected to the subject, Emiway Bantai, or somebody hired to write this article. Jehochman Talk 21:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
The draft seems good enough to establish notability. I see that the subject has 11m YouTube followers and has been covered by multiple independent sources. I will wait for Athaenara to comment before taking any other actions. Jehochman Talk 21:17, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Jehochman I did not know that he is not sir. I'm sorry. I made the draft just as a fan of them and I have nothing to do with that person. And if I tell myself, I am not a lifetime on Wikipedia. Just use it sometimes. So I did not create an account. I hope you understand. (talk) 00:38, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

Unprotect the title

Hello, Emiway Bantai has been protected by you and has become a Draft: Emiway Bantai (rapper) draft by this name, which is worth publishing. But the draft article title is also protected by administrators. I spoke to other administrators on this subject, but because of being protected by you, they ask for your permission. So, please unprotect Emiway Bantai so that the article can be published. Thank you TechToker (talk) 04:51, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

Message from AthaenaraEdit

Athaenara is reading her talk page messages but, under the recent site-wide strictures (see, not editing or logging in until OS updates or a replacement computer enable it. She is taking advantage of this initially unwelcome respite and treating it as a brief sabbatical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:00, 19 October 2020 (UTC)

  • Update: connected and reading messages today. – Athaenara 19:54, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
  • Update 2: ANY reliable administrator is free to reverse ANY administrative action I have taken, whether page protection, page deletion, user block, or anything else. – Athaenara 20:02, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Unblocking Draft:D'Angelo WallaceEdit

Hey there, I'm looking to rewrite the D'Angelo Wallace draft using a few sources which have come out since the draft article was deleted (eg this Insider article) in a more NPOV. Would it be possible to have it undeleted temporarily so I can start the rewrite? – Bangalamania (talk) 20:31, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary!Edit

Today's Wikipedian 10 years agoEdit

Ten years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 13 November 2020 (UTC)


Can user:2600:1700:71c0:503f:a19f:2dac:93b:7c4c please be blocked ASAP. CLCStudent (talk) 17:50, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Pennridge–Quakertown Thanksgiving Day Football ClassicEdit

Hi. Not sure if you were aware when you deleted the above article that there was an AfD pending, which was trending strongly to "keep". See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pennridge–Quakertown Thanksgiving Day Football Classic and discussion at User talk:Cbl62#Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pennridge–Quakertown Thanksgiving Day Football Classic. Rather than speedy delete, I suggest the AfD continue. Would you mind reverting your deletion so the process can run its course? Cbl62 (talk) 05:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)

@Cbl62: Undeleted so discussion may resume there (the AfD page will need some template cleanup*). – Athaenara 17:56, 19 November 2020 (UTC) (Eagles247 took care of template cleanup.) – Athaenara 18:00, 19 November 2020 (UTC)*


in re: User:FamousRoger/sandbox (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

please correspond with me - i respond to a call in wikipedia to more comprehensively cover 501c3s - i donate and contribute and I don't get feedback for a good-faith response to a call from wikipedia to contribute? This is absurd. The notability is baked-in; the IRS 501c3; you have deleted irresponsibly. you owe me feedback. this is why wikipedia is falling behind in the collection of comprehensive information. You need to invest more in reviewing; as noted in the talk sections.,_D.C.

I decided to begin to improve these lists using the 501c3 tools on and you delete my good faith work? it isn't very encouraging. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FamousRoger (talkcontribs) 21:18, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

@FamousRoger: I think it would be a good idea for you to re-read the conflict of interest warning posted on your own talk page, as well as the speedy deletion notice itself. If you read our guidelines and policies (linked in that notice) about advertising and promotion, this situation will be clearer to you. – Athaenara 21:25, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

implying I haven't read everything is dismissing but it isn't addressing my concern at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FamousRoger (talkcontribs) 21:36, 24 November 2020 (UTC)