User:Reidgreg/DYK

This page serves to list this user's Did You Know nominations and reviews, to track quid pro quo and achievements, and to provide useful links for reviewing.

DYK nominations and reviews
Nominations Reviews
1. Danzig Street shooting (waived)
2. 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides (waived)
3. Death of Alloura Wells (waived)
4. Murder of Tess Richey (waived)
5. Young People Fucking (waived)
6. 29th Genie Awards 1. Roberto Benedicto
7. 10th Canadian Comedy Awards 2. Ina Hartwig
8. 1st Canadian Comedy Awards 3. Unhinged (book)
9. Canadian Comedy Awards 4. Mario Alberto Peña
10. Made in Canada 5. Hijabophobia
11. Peameal bacon 6. Battle of Meligalas
12. Poutine 7. O clap your hands (Rutter)
13. List of Canadian comedians 8. Willie Borsch
9. Elizabeth Byrd
10. Thorne miniature rooms
11. Opon Ifá
12. Birjis Qadr
13. Operation Crossfire Hurricane
14. Digital media use and mental health
15. Bim bam toi
16. The Myth of the Eastern Front
17. Parel Relief
18. Stanford Fleet Street Singers
19. CFVO-TV
20. William Frederick Windham
21. Başakşehir Çam and Sakura City Hospital
22. Megacephalosaurus
23. Gaja Baja
24. Scythrophrys
25. Proceratophrys boiei (double with above)
26. List of Roman Catholic archbishops of Montreal
27. Led Zeppelin Played Here
28. Mary Henderson Eastman
29. Jewish war conspiracy theory
30. Rheinsberg (story)
31. 2020 Puerto Rican status referendum
32. Shooting of Greg Gunn
Article(s)
(date)
DYK views VPH Month rank DYK hook
Danzig Street shooting
(25 May 2018)
10,824 451 13 ... that Toronto's worst mass shooting was committed by teenagers at a block party?nom
Death of Alloura Wells, Murder of Tess Richey, 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides
(19 June 2018)
4,140 + 3,824 + 7,646 = 15,610 650 6 ... that the deaths of Alloura Wells and Tess Richey, reported one day apart, renewed fears of a serial killer in Toronto's gay village?nom
Young People Fucking, 29th Genie Awards, 10th Canadian Comedy Awards
(April Fool's 201900:00–11:59 UTC)
6,877 + 698 + 671 = 8,246 687 20
11 by VPH
... that a Genie and three Beavers recognized Young People Fucking?nom
Poutine, peameal bacon, Made in Canada, Canadian Comedy Awards, 1st Canadian Comedy Awards
(Canada Day1 July 2019)
29,514 + 18,463 + 10,639 + 7,082 + 1,777 − (1,971 + 4,528)/2 = 64,225 2,676 1
Food at WIkimanian 2017 02.jpg
... that poutine (example pictured) and back bacon on a bun were served while the Beaver was awarded to Made in Canada at the inaugural Canadian Comedy Awards?nom
TAI Aksungur
(7 August 2019)
3,186 133 not ranked ... that Turkey's Aksungur MALE UAV has a designed maximum payload nearly four times that of its predecessor?nom
A Shakespearean Baseball Game
(21 Aug 2019 – 00:00–11:59 UTC)
1,797 149 not ranked ... that Wayne and Shuster poked fun at Canada's Stratford Festival with a skit about a baseball game where the manager, players, and umpires all speak in Shakespearean verse?nom
The Precious Legacy
(29 Aug 201900:00–11:59 UTC)
5,665 472 27
22 by VPH
... that an exhibit of Czech Jewish art and ritual objects confiscated by the Nazis for a planned "Museum of the Extinct Race" was seen by more than half a million people on its U.S. tour?nom
Rinse the Blood Off My Toga
(30 Aug 2019 – 12:00–23:59 UTC)
3,270 272 not ranked ... that Wayne and Shuster's comedy sketch "Rinse the Blood Off My Toga" recasts Shakespeare's Julius Caesar as a detective story?nom
List of Canadian comedians
(5 Sept 2019 – 00:00–11:59 UTC)
2,999 250 not ranked ... that the dark and fatalistic humour of Canadian comedians has been attributed to the dangers of Canada's climate and geography?nom
Ivan Golunov
(26 Sept 2019)
2,862 119 not ranked ... that just prior to his arrest in 2019, investigative journalist Ivan Golunov was examining the links between Moscow funeral businesses and the Federal Security Service?nom

DYK for Danzig Street shootingEdit

 On 25 May 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Danzig Street shooting, which you recently brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Toronto's worst mass shooting was committed by teenagers at a block party? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Danzig Street shooting. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Danzig Street shooting), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Maile66 (talk) 00:36, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

This was my first article, my first GA, and my first DYK. It received 10,824 page views while it was on the main page on Friday 25 May 2018. This was the 13th most-viewed hook for May 2018 and the 7th most-viewed non-lead hook (i.e.: without an accompanying picture) for that month.

DYK for 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides & Death of Alloura Wells & Murder of Tess RicheyEdit

 On 19 June 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides, which you substantially expanded. The fact was ... that the deaths of Alloura Wells and Tess Richey, reported one day apart, renewed fears of a serial killer in Toronto's gay village? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides, Death of Alloura Wells & Murder of Tess Richey), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I'd planned to promote this through Wikipedia:In the news but for BLP reasons they weren't likely to cover it until there was a conviction (see below). The DYK I had originally prepared was "... that landscaper Bruce McArthur is alleged to have killed several men and hidden their dismembered bodies in garden planter boxes?" It was a hooky and typical of newspaper headlines, but I was rightly reminded that while articles may have content like this we shouldn't have gruesome facts jump out at people on the main page, particularly in concern for the bereaved. Meanwhile I'd submitted the page to a move discussion which stalled, restarted, failed for lack of consensus on a new name, then was summarily moved for overriding BLP concerns. Seeing that the hook couldn't go negative or sensationalistic, I was afraid that the rather dry alternatives wouldn't grab a lot of readers. In hopes of getting more pageviews, I quickly wrote the two related articles for a multi-article hook, and with help from reviewers Yoninah and Gog the Mild got them into good shape.

It appeared on the main page on Tuesday 19 June 2018 with 15,610 (7,646 + 4,140 + 3,824) pageviews – more than half of the total coming from the two smaller articles. This was the sixth most-viewed hook for that month and just squeezed onto the leaderboard for hooks with 15,000+ views. So the strategy seemed to work, it added two other pretty-decent articles to the encyclopedia, and I learned quite a bit from the experience. Preparation is key to DYK, and it really pays to get all your ducks in a row.

ITN for 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicidesEdit

 On 8 February 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2010–2017 Toronto serial homicides, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin MSGJ (talk) 20:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
The update was: Bruce McArthur pleads guilty to eight serial killings in Toronto, Canada, and is sentenced to life in prison.
Pageview stats are here: xtools.

I'm mentioning this ITN promotion as it was an interesting experience and relates to the above. I'd nominated this for Wikipedia:In the news three times. The first nomination was sub-par and declined as an ongoing criminal case. I periodically kept the article updated and a few months later the suspect pleaded guilty a year ahead of his scheduled trial. I updated the article and made a second nomination which was declined with advice to wait for sentencing. It was a bit of a struggle for me to keep the article updated as it became a big news story with easily 50 news items over a week. The article also attracted more editors, getting a fair amount of vandalism, point-of-view edits and arbitrary style edits; it also came under another move discussion. That tripled the work of updating the article, to deal with those issues, edit conflicts and discussions.

I was refreshing Google news the day of sentencing and, within minutes of the first news report, I updated the article and made a third nomination. Because of the earlier nom, the ITN volunteers were familiar with it and it was quickly promoted to the main page. (While an American serial killer might have been turned down, a Canadian serial killer was considered unusual enough to be promoted.) It was promoted so quickly that it it was reported at WP:ERRORS for having insufficient discussion and support. Support did continue to come in, though, and it was decided that there was no sense in pulling it from the main page when it was certain to make its way back. So a little procedural hiccup.

The article was linked in the ITN section of the main page from 8 to 13 February 2019 (ITN items are removed on a FIFO basis as new items are promoted). On those 6 days it received a total of 185,258 views, peaking at 50,167 on 9 February (its first full day on ITN). In the 10 days before sentencing (between the second and third ITN nominations) it received an additional 88,969 views. It made the Wikipedia:5000 list of most-viewed articles for the weeks of 22 Jan – 2 Feb (No. 1652 with 50,969 views), 3–9 Feb (No. 322 with 120,118 views) and 10–16 Feb (No. 414 with 108,296 views). Its best seven-day stretch was 7–13 Feb at 191,597 which might have ranked it around 140. This is the most views the article is likely to receive, its pre-sentencing background level being around 400 per day.

DYK for Young People Fucking & 29th Genie Awards & 10th Canadian Comedy AwardsEdit

 On 1 April 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Young People Fucking, which you substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a Genie and three Beavers recognized Young People Fucking? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Young People Fucking. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Young People Fucking), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

After the articles above, I was eager to turn to lighter material and had been periodically working on a series for the Canadian Comedy Awards. I nominated this triple-hook on 28 December 2018. I was concerned whether the title of the primary article would be suitable for the main page and had included the overlong alt hook "... that the Canadian sex comedy distributed internationally as YPF was at the centre of a national political debate due to its controversial title, but went on to win a Genie and three Beavers?" I knew all the hooks could be improved but wanted some feedback on whether it was suitable for DYK at all before spending a lot of time on it. I also mentioned the possibility that it might be saved for 1 April, and was pleasantly surprised when The C of E reviewed, approved and moved it to Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know 73 minutes after I'd nominated it, as the second April Fool's hook for 2019. Another editor expressed concerns about it being "too vulgar" along the lines of WP:NOTCENSORED and the Main Page (an essay which deals mainly with pornography and images of violence), and the reviewer returned with the WP:NOTCENSORED policy and noted similar words which had previously appeared on the main page. It then basically waited for three months.

About two weeks before April Fool's, this quiet corner of Wikipedia gained increasing attention. Gatoclass proposed the hook "...that young people fucking scored three beavers?" as a double entendre with lower-case for ambiguity – which the April 1 rules permit to maintain a misleading hook. I initially felt this was pushing it a bit, but it seemed to be the acceptable standard after looking at the other nominations and the April Fool's page from previous years. (Also, there were by then more than a dozen approved nominees, and I was concerned that the less-funny ones might not be promoted.) I tried to work the Genie article back in by suggesting: "... that young people fucking bagged three beavers and got lucky with a genie?" I felt the alliteration was a little hookier. Some citation concerns were addressed with the help of Yoninah on 31 March and it was added to the first prep area (there were two 1 April DYK sets run for 12 hours each).

Six hours before 1 April, Amakuru, the admin on duty to promote the DYK set from the prep to the queue – essentially the one ultimately responsible for what appears on the main page – stated concerns at WP:ERRORS about the hook's suitability: that it was obscene, an abuse of NOTCENSORED, gratuitously offensive, and suggested that it be toned down or pulled. There were objections to these objections, cries of censorship, and comparison made to another hook "... that 1,900 people in Seattle rode the city's slut on a daily basis?" Another editor lamented an offensive word triggering profanity filters and making Wikipedia unusable in schools. Less than two hours before 1 April, it was decided to run with my original short hook. This raised a series of other objections about it being unfunny, ungrammatical, and ruining the April Fool's set – one editor stating that they thought the main page had been vandalized because it was so humourless. (The April Fool's DYK mandate is actually to confuse and mislead; any humour is a bonus and subjective in any case.)

I feel that Amakuru was probably right, and may have averted a lot of potential complaints from the community and readership. (Wikipedia:Rules for Fools summarizes community consensus from a series of RfCs.) The film's title was the subject of a national censorship debate in 2007; it is provocative enough on its own, and pushing any further in a ribald direction may have seemed like a deliberate attempt to offend. I did find it upsetting that people would take such offence at "beaver" which is a national symbol, and feel it was somewhat unfair when the slut hook passed. Nonetheless, if it raised a stink that makes it more of an accomplishment. I imagine relatively few editors have gotten an admin to put the F-word on the main page in bold italics.

Pageviews appear modest at 8,246, but that's for 12 hours and there was a lot of competition. It placed 4th from its set of 9 hooks and 6th from the day's 19 total hooks. (The secondary hooked articles had enough views to raise it four places on the daily rank.) Pageviews for the day's hooks ranged from 1,123 to 12,687, with 13 of 19 hooks getting 5k+ views for the April 2019 statistics page (permalink). The second set received 50% more views than the first, perhaps because the first ran on Sunday evening in North America (comparison: 1st set & 2nd set). For the month of April 2019, it was the 20th most-viewed hook and the 9th most-viewed non-lead hook (ie: without a picture). By hours on the main page, it was the 11th most-viewed or the 6th most-viewed non-lead hook. By the latter statistics, this was a tiny bit more successful than my previous best DYK, which was also a triple hook.

DYK for 1st Canadian Comedy Awards, Canadian Comedy Awards, Made in Canada, Peameal bacon and PoutineEdit

 On 1 July 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1st Canadian Comedy Awards, which you recently substantially expanded. The fact was ... that poutine (example pictured) and back bacon on a bun were served while the Beaver was awarded to Made in Canada at the inaugural Canadian Comedy Awards? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1st Canadian Comedy Awards. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, 1st Canadian Comedy Awards, all five), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

This was a continuation of work on the Canadian Comedy Awards articles, and an opportunity to try for a 5+ article hook to earn a spot on the Multiple Article Hook Hall of Fame. After the initial approval of my April Fool's hook, I was aiming for Canada Day, 1 July, so that they wouldn't run too close together. My initial idea was an eight-article hook with a fun Canadiana theme: "... that poutine and back bacon on a bun were served while Doug McKenzie gave The Beaver to Made in Canada, clowns and comedians at the inaugural Canadian Comedy Awards?" However, I couldn't find enough material to sufficiently expand or cover Mump and Smoot; and the McKenzie article was the main article for five others, so I found it difficult to expand it without updating the whole series. Poutine and Made in Canada were sent for copy edit on 24 April and 15 May, nominated for GA on 2 and 17 May, and passed on 7 and 16 June. I was quite dogged in begging for reviews and am thankful to Mr. C.C., Miniapolis, Twofingered Typist, Gog the Mild, Canadian Paul, Valereee, Gerda Arendt and Yoninah for their wise and timely assistance throughout the process of developing and expanding the articles. With a five-article hook, there was five times as much that could go wrong.

The hook I'd applied with was a bit forced, so it was simplified to the five-article hook in the box above, List of Canadian comedians spun out into a separate hook, and a picture added – making this my first lead hook! Given how long the hook was, I thought the picture balanced it pretty well. It was promoted to the special occasions area for 1 July.

An elaborate recipe and presentation (top) and four basic recipe poutines

When the special occasions hooks were assembled in the prep area, another hook, Frank Borman, was given the lead/picture slot. I knew that was a possibility but when I actually saw it, with an American national image chosen over a Canadian national image for Canada Day, it didn't sit right with me. A lengthy and illustrated discussion followed.

The Borman hook had been chosen to lead: (1) for variety as the previous day's prep area had a food image, (2) because it was believed that Borman had more worldwide interest, and (3) the volunteer could not identify the ingredients in the poutine picture and didn't like its presentation on a fast food tray. Pageviews and other evidence was used to suggest that poutine was of worldwide interest, perhaps moreso on that day. The first two points were quickly settled as nominators volunteered to move their hooks. The other food image was moved back to a non-consecutive day and the Borman hook was moved up (its connection to the day [the anniversary of his entering West Point and retiring from NASA] wasn't as strong and the hook fact was that he hadn't died yet, so there was some urgency in running it before that changed). The issues with the poutine image required more discussion.

This is something I should have checked before the GA review of poutine. I just don't deal a lot with images. I didn't find any fault with the images which were in the article, I felt they gave adequate coverage and encyclopedic value, and didn't bother to search Commons for better images (I was a dial-up user at the time). Also, I was under the impression (per WP:DYKJN) that pictures had to be 100px wide, which seemed to necessitate a close-up picture. However, that rule has apparently been significantly relaxed in practice, and landscape-oriented pictures were being allowed at 160px.

A series of other images were suggested (right). The top one was suggested as having been selected for a list on Wikimedia Commons to represent poutine. It is a high-quality image, but Commons is not an encyclopedia and has other considerations in its selection. I didn't feel high-resolution quality mattered at 160px and felt that the image was elitist food porn, that it was an elaborated recipe non-representative of the subject as a whole, and had too many external factors distracting from the food itself – that the picture did not provide an accurate and identifiable illustration of the subject and was not the ideal encyclopedic image. The next image down was a long-standing image from the article's infobox (and from the same restaurant as the top image) and showed the three basic ingredients, but there were objections to it looking like "a plate of indiscriminate slop". I countered that "poutine" is often linked to the Quebecois word for "mess" and has been described as such, so that was encyclopedically accurate. In hopes of finding some consensus, I searched Commons and proposed the lower three pictures, which show the essential three-ingredient dish on a plate. The bottom one, which happened to have been taken at Wikimania 2017 in Montreal, was selected for the main page appearance and added to the article.

I'd been reasonably sure that this hook would achieve 15k views but I wasn't sure it would get the 25k for the picture hook leaderboard. Pageviews far exceeded my expectations. I'd mentioned in discussion that this was "the one day Canadians can shrug off their modesty and call attention to themselves" and that may have had something to do with it. Another factor might be the popularity of poutine, which had the picture slot (pictures tend to get more views). It may have been the "perfect storm" of factors: the right day, the right picture hook, and the broadness of subjects including food, nostalgia, culture, national identity, and humour. The five hooks received a total of 67,475 views, each going up proportionally from their baseline views. Three of the five, including the GAs and food articles, had more than 10k views. By total views, it took 14th place on the lead hook leaderboard, and 24th amongst all hooks. It also had the distinction of being the most-viewed hook with three or more articles, and the most-viewed Canada-related hook. With additional views for the week, Poutine reached No. 2098 on the WP:5000 for 30 June – 6 July 2019 with 41,499 page views (Canada Day was No. 79 with a quarter-million views!). It was the most-viewed hook for that month, and the second-most-viewed hook for 2019 (dwarfed by the thirtieth-anniversary DYK for Fall of the Berlin Wall in November). So all around, pretty amazing!

DYK for List of Canadian comediansEdit

This was split off from a six-article hook proposal, above, and while it qualified it was in the worst shape of the group of submissions. I did a little more expansion to get a stand-alone hook for it, a bit of layout work, and then scoured Commons for pictures of performing comedians. All in all, was pretty pleased with it, and glad that Yoninah prodded me to do the extra work. We decided on the hook "... that Canadians consider their comedians (Wayne and Shuster pictured), along with their singers and musicians, to be the country's cultural representatives?" However, it was pulled from promotion with disagreement over what "cultural representatives" meant. I still felt that it worked, but it stalled and we ended up going in another direction when it finally ran two months later. It could have been better, but I wasn't going to make a GA out of it.

DYK assistsEdit

I assisted with a few articles that were up for DYK. The first was Template:Did you know nominations/TAI Aksungur which I happened upon at DYK noms, for an article about a military drone. I gave the article a copy edit for some tone issues and close paraphrasing, then I ended up expanding it and proposing some new hooks. One was the misleading "... that an Aksungur (English: gyrfalcon) male can carry aloft 750 kilograms?" which might have passed for April Fools' but we went with another one to run it sooner. It wasn't my usual, but was fun to work on while I had a break between other things.

Then there were three articles that Yoninah invited me to expand. Two were Wayne and Shuster skits and a third was about a travelling museum exhibition. They were good subjects to work on and Yoninah did all the heavy lifting to get them organized and see the DYK noms through, so I was happy to lend a hand with them. The Precious Legacy received 5.665 views and made it onto the stats page (at the time, my fourth-highest DYK in views per hour).

I believe that the Ivan Golunov nomination was abandoned by its original editor. Those who continued with it didn't have a huge amount of time, so I did some citation cleanup, copy edit, and other gnomish work to help move it along, for which I was credited with an assist.