Talk:Sui iuris

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Objection to spellingEdit

I object to the spelling iuris and the juris -> iuris redirect. Although I perfectly well understand the historical reasons for the iuris spelling, I find that I see "juris" far more often and I feel that we shouldn't be bound by archaic orthography. Frankly, it also appears arrogant. That's not to cast dispersions on those who prefer iuris, only to state my concern with preferring that spelling. I therefore suggest a name change. Dullescoelho (talk) 19:02, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

Objection to languageEdit

In the first paragraph:

"...(that were additionally in personam and so legally reciprocal at the scale of personhood, effectively accruing constituencies polity by individuation).

Does this kind of language belong in this encyclopedia? Obscene! It should be avoided at all costs. Plain language please. JohnClarknew (talk) 07:38, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Six years later, I concur and have removed that ridiculous sentence. :) --Quuxplusone (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2017 (UTC)


A big chunk of this article could probably be moved to and merged with List of Catholic liturgical rites and particular churches, in order to keep this article content more limited and general. Chicbyaccident (talk) 14:21, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

here, here. Furthermore, title spelling, plain language, and less confusion, as for my purpose of researching "sui juris" and landing on some archaic spelling and then, Catholicism? Note: Sui Juris = having full legal capacity to act on one's own behalf : not subject to the authority of another,(Merriam-Webster). of full age and not under disability, (Collins). etc. Suijur (talk) 12:13, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
I have removed the italic title and instances, and have bold markup to the instances of title. Also the secular reference to the US Congress has been cited on Legal Dictionary, http sui juris. A clean up of the begining paragraph as well. As for the Chursh iuris examples they have been left untouched as I do not know that stuff, and would not wish to offend that project, However, I have read the Wikipedia:Vagueness essay and put the link here and at the top of this talk page for any who wish to concern themselves with improving this article.Suijur (talk) 04:24, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

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Sui jurisEdit


Inappropriate redirect by the roman catholics. Put your '''iuris''' on a division of your page(s) and give Sui Juris the jurisdiction of its sovereignty and furthermore, remove your project banner shell.

PETITION (Put your four tildes below if you agree

Suijur (talk) 15:49, 7 January 2019 (UTC)

@Suijur: Please start new talk page topics at the bottom of the page.
The word juris would not normally be capitalized in the name of an article.
You may better be able to achieve your goals by expanding the existing article and balancing it better cover the way the concept is used in secular law. (usually with the juris spelling). Forking off a dictionary definition is not the way to start. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 18:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the helpful tips, which are duly noted, progress begins. Suijur (talk) 04:28, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Tips for improving the article Sui iurisEdit


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Additional help articles for improvement. Suijur (talk) 04:36, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

@Suijur: Vagueness applies here, too. You need to be a lot clearer about what you think needs to be improved. Just making very general or oblique criticisms is unlikely to motivate other editors to respond. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 15:42, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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