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error when using {{flag}} template for Venice?Edit

I commented-out a use of the flag template here. For some reason, the template breaks. Any idea what's happening?

I also posted on Template talk:Flag. = paul2520 (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

I see it has been fixed. = paul2520 (talk) 17:42, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

North MacedoniaEdit

North Macedonia has neither official, nor unofficial or traditional motto. Sloboda ili smrt is in use since the fall of Communism in the early 1990-s when a political party named VMRO-DPMNE was created. Several off-shoot parties with the same abbreviation - IMRO were founded later. All these parties use that slogan, i.e. it is political and party-motto, but not a national motto. The motto was never used officially on a state-level ceremonies. Sloboda ili smrt or Слобода или смрт is in fact the motto of the Serbian Chetniks. Jingiby (talk) 14:07, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

No source was provided. More, 30% from the people in North Macedonia are not ethnic Macedonians. They are Albanians, Turks, Roma, etc. and they never used that party-motto. By this reason it can not be also even an unofficial North Macedonia's motto. If this is not a state's motto, but strictly an ethnic Macedonian unofficial slogan, what is also doubtful I think, please provide a reliable source for that and put it in the article about the ethnic Macedonians. Jingiby (talk) 04:59, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
PS. Neither Google Books, nor Google Scholar, or Google News support such claim. Jingiby (talk) 06:01, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
Many countries have no motto, but are still included in the list. The last change to North Macedonia was with "No official motto". Stop removing it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8388:2801:7C00:402A:325D:F2BB:4C84 (talk) 01:14, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
User:Draudak, Serbian Chetniks's slogan "Sloboda ili smrt" was never used by the IMRO. Macedonian language was standardized in 1945. The insurgents from 1903 and later wrote only in standard Bulgarian and used the Bulgarian motto Svoboda ili smart. Please stop pushing original research manipulating the historical circumstances. Thanks. Jingiby (talk) 17:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)
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