Talk:Frisbee

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Ashes into Frisbees?Edit

From the article:

"Upon his death, Morrison was cremated and his ashes turned into Frisbees."

Is this true or is it someone's attempt at humor? If true, can anyone provide a reference? —Frecklefoot 13:04, 9 Sep 2003 (EDT)

According to http://www.ancestry.com/library/view/columns/eastman/6240.asp it was Ed Headrick, not Morrison.--Zantolak 19:40, 22 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Stancil Johnson, MD, wrote about having his ashes molded into frisbees in his book "Frisbee, a practioner's manual and definitive treatise." Dr. Johnson is still with us. Ed Headrick, the father of disc golf, did indeed have his ashes molded into discs.

Morrison is still living. http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595063442,00.html

The ashes wernt "molded" into frisbees (making it sound as if you get a frisbee made of ash instead of plastic) but rather a small quantity of ashes were added to a large volume of clear plastic. In the final product, clear discs with Ed's picture and a short sentiment printed on them, you can see a few flecks here and there of Ed - TINY bits of ash. You can buy discs on Amazon.

PhysicsEdit

There is a difference between the shape of a disc golf disc and a Frisbee, the disc has a pointed leading edge, and the Frisbee has a skirt.

quite interesting

Does anyone have a robust source for this description? I have no doubt that there have been studies into the physics of Frisbees, and I doubt somehow that Bernoulli is a sufficient description. See Coanda effect and especially the late Jeff Raskin's excellent description of the Coanda effect linked from there. Probably the best treatment of the Frisbee would be as a circular wing! ajf 16:36, Apr 23, 2005 (UTC)

revolutionary physics

There are two researchers who have sites worth looking into. One is S Hummel at UC Santa Cruz. The other is J Potts at Manchester in England.
Personally I don't think Bernoulli has anything to do with it. The original idea for frisbees is the same as that for hovercraft. The idea is lift through high pressure. Completely opposite of a wing. http://www.geocities.com/gregu10/Schlichting.jpg This diagram from Schlichting's famous book shows the airflow without the skirt.
The angular momentum is stored energy. What you need to do is explain how this energy gets converted into thrust.
Another very important concept for frisbees is how they minimize drag.....
And of course it would be nice to be able to explain why the air underneath the thing feels cold. Frizb 21:20, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Found this page via "It has been suggested that this article or section ["Disk Physics"] be merged into flying disc" from the "Disc Golf" page, which makes little sense (to me.)

The average, non-golf flying disc is inherently "stable," and designed for throwing and catching. They are designed to go (mostly) straight when thrown. The average golf disc is NOT designed to be caught per se, except by a disc golf basket. Going into highly technical terms that apply to a small cross-section of discs serves only to confuse the "average" disc thrower (IMHO.) Adding overly technical information about over/understable, disc speeds, "rollers" and the like seems akin to discussing "drag chutes" under "automobiles" instead of "drag racing." I feel that it should stay under "Disc Golf" and not merge here. no ID, 18:20 23 Feb. 2007

I agree. The title "Disc Physics" is what is misleading. It could be changed to Golf Disc Physics. The truth is that what is described in that section is often a) unique, at very least in prevalence of the terminology, to disc golf, and b) highly relevent to the point of being not just integral to the play of the game, but ever-present in the thoughts of the players. A disc golf player always knows or strives to know what he did in his hand, arm, body to get the disc to fly in the specific flight path it took, and how to repeat it when needed. For discussion and instruction among players, terminology exists that describes specific flight characteristics. Understanding disc flight patterns is paramount to playing and improving. This all needs to be said in the "disc golf" article.

Trademark claimEdit

Could there be a tad more elaborating on the Wham-O's claim of "Frisbee" as a trademark? Have they been successful? If not, why?

Peter Isotalo 20:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

I think it was just a phrasing issue, as the frisbee has been a registered trademark for a long time. I changed the text. Elf | Talk 21:57, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

See Chapter VII the Frisbee Conspiracy The Complete Book of Frisbee the history of the sport & the first official price guide Victor A. Malafronte American Treads Publishing, Alameda, CA, 1998 ISBN: 0-9663855-2-7

Victor provides much history into trademark and use of the term 'frisbee'.

== Redirect ==

The Frisbee redirect does not allow the proper categorization of "Wham-O Brands".Is there not sufficient information about Frisbee proper to merit its own entry, with a link to the generic type? Cellmaker (talk) 00:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

WeaponEdit

In certain games and movies there are frisbee or frisbee-like discs used as weapons. In Alien vs Predator movie the Predator has a metal disc that he throw on people and cut their heads off. In computer game 'Tribe', a weapon shoot disc to people.

Goldfinger

in the original movie Goldfinger the servant Oddjob uses his hat as a spinning disc weapon. When I was a kid it was pretty common for someone to come up and say something like "do you know what you would have if you put razor blades on the edge of that?" This was so common it was in somebody's "12 Rules of Frisbee" along with "good catch followed by bad throw" and "car suck"
Well I have an answer to the people who want to put razor blades on my DisCraft. I tell them it would be exactly the same size and shape as the number 4 compressor rotor in the Pratt and Whitney JT9D jet engine. Frizb 21:30, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Physics part too hard to understand?Edit

I think that the physics section on frisbee is to scietific for general know-how. It should be made more basic and easier to understand.

Physics is hard

Einstein said physics should be simple enough to explain things, but not simpler. I agree it's not easy to understand what the page says now. Unfortunately what is there now is wrong, and is not complicated enough. It is too simple now, and in the fullness of time it will only get harder. Frizb
Maybe you should tackle your spelling and grammar first before worrying about the physics

Trivia sectionEdit

I had entered a section with this bit of trivia, but someone pulled it out; it's not a joke entry, and I cannot figure out why people wouldn't want it to be part of the page.

John Dwork graduated from Hampshire College in 1984 with a Bachelor of Arts in Frisbee [1]. The full title of his degree was "Flying Disc Entertainment and Education."

I want it back in. Any support? MEJ119

I agree with the adding it back in. It's true and a great example of the anti-authoritarian lifestyle that is frequently associated with frisbee or flying disc sports. I've attached a link to the Hampshire College library archives that confirms this "myth." [2] CFiorello 05:23, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I would also suggest adding to the trivia the Frisbee Dog Memorial Statue that sits on the quad of Middlebury College to the trivia. The statue's story can be found at this link. [3] while the story as the origin of frisbee is certainly apocryphal, it does add to association of frisbee and college culture.

See WP:TRIV. Creating trivia sections is a bad idea. If some fact is interesting enough to include, find/create some way to work it into main article prose. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 18:55, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

HistoryEdit

OPERATION D.I.S.C.

"While many people believe that the Flying Disc was a result of The Frisbie Pie Company (1871–1958) of Bridgeport, Connecticut, this is entirely false. The Flying Disc was created in a government run facility 6 miles underground in 1940, as part of Operation D.I.S.C. (Deadly Instruments of Soaring and Catching) an experimental weapon program. Englebert Humperdink, the lead scientist in charge of Operation D.I.S.C. believed that the shape of the Flying Disc had special properties, and, when thrown, could cause bodily harm, and sometimes death. Many soldiers on the front lines used Flying Discs instead to send messages, and for leisure and fun. To this day, Englebert Humperdink is regarded as the true father of the Flying Disc. (Citation Needed)."
Please say this is someone's joke. As the article for Humperdink or whatever his name is leads to a German composer, I cannot believe this is at all based in reality and I am going to remove it. Loonybin0 22:57, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

What about the history of a frisbee being from a pie pan? 71.250.23.130 18:41, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Myth
This is a pleasant myth. At the Air Force Museum web site they have images of a guided missile called an aerobee, and a jet powered target drone called a feuerbee. Later on the army developed a high altitude missile called the aerobee to draw attention away from the circular control surface on the original aerobee guided missile. They probably tossed pie plates around at Yale and other places, but the Friesbee did not come from there, it was not named for a family of Danish people, and neither were the other two fast-moving flying things. Fries-Bee probably is a concatenation of the north German words that mean "cold fast-mover" "Fries-be-eiler"
That's bullshit. Please look at this. The pie tin story is not a myth. There is also this source from a NPOV. —WAvegetarianCONTRIBUTIONSTALKEMAIL 02:56, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
I apologize for the language. This is the first time that I have looked at this page since writing that. I haven't written anything nearly that incivil in the past 6 months. I agree with what the anonymous poster said below. The most likely, and most widely accepted, derivation of "frisbee" is from the pie company. I never said that the pie company was related to pluto platter.—WAvegetarian(talk) 04:56, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry too. I edited out my swearing. It could still be pies, but I am sure it is cold fast moving thing, just like feuerbee means jet powered fast thing to the USAF, and aerobee means aerodynamic fast thing to the USAF. I'm putting my money with the USAF. Frizb 21:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

TO CLARIFY THE MISUNDERSTANDING: Separate the name from the thing. The name "Frisbee" probably DID originate from a misspelling of the name of the Frisbie Pie Company. But, Wham-O coined and trademarked the name Frisbee almost 6 months AFTER they had bought the rights to the Pluto Platter from Fred Morrison. It was Fred who came up with the concept of producing a commercial flying disc after he tossed a popcorn can lid with his girlfriend (and later wife) in Los Angeles, CA. His 1946 sketch of the "Whirlo-Way" disc was molded in plastic in 1948 with the help of Warren Franscioni. This Pipco Flyin-Saucer was the very first plastic flying disc...and it arose without any help or knowledge of East Coast-based Frisbie's Pies. Thus, plastic flying discs (and the Frisbee® disc) didn't originate with pie tins...but the name Frisbee possibly did.

Missing essential information? The history section is confusing to me (I'm no expert on any of this). The article never introduces Fred Morrison, only Warren and Lucile Franscioni.

First reference is "Morrison told The Virginian-Pilot newspaper". Never says who he is, or even mentions his first name, except in references. No link to wiki page for Walter Frederick Morrison (had to find that on my own). Obvious to people who know the history maybe, but no help to those who don't. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bytefield (talkcontribs) 01:12, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Rename: flying disc to Frisbee (was Frisbee to flying disc)Edit

Can we move the name of this article from Frisbee to Flying disc yet? Wham-O has been getting protective of their copyrights and no serious Ultimate or other disc aficionado calls flying discs "frisbees". --Liface 16:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll move it to flying disk.Cameron Nedland 13:37, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
You spelled it wrong. It should be "Flying disc". I've put a request in at Wikipedia:requested moves to move it to this title. --Liface 19:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Disk is an accepted spelling, like colo(u)r, civili(z/s)e, etc.Cameron Nedland 02:52, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Disk is accepted, but disc is more common. Flying disc vs. Flying disk. Plus, we've already set a precedent with "flying disc games". --Liface 06:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm. I moved the page per the RM, but I'm not so sure it should have been moved from frisbee in the first place, copyrighted or not; I thought it was about UFOs... Whatever. Duja 14:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
It's hard, because disc players are trying to phase out Frisbee as a genericized trademark for discs. Having the article read "flying disc" is a start. Hopefully in the next couple years people will be more and more used to the new rhetoric. --Liface 21:37, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to see the portion which dicusses the flying technique of the discs stay under this heading for disc golf. there is so much specific content in thta portion for the game of disc golf that would be out of place under a different heading. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kodhedz (talkcontribs) 09:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC).

This name change and move was rather questionable. There would be no grounds to sue Wikipedia. Whether the company likes it or not, Frisbee has become a generic name. Alyeska 18:36, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Whatever terminology is used by a "serious Ultimate or other disc aficionado", Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Use_common_names_of_persons_and_things tells us to use the common name, which is frisbee. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
The naming conventions page does not really apply to genericized trademarks. Examples: Crock pot, Novocaine, Viagra, basically any other drug name, Crescent wrench etc... --Liface 19:42, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Don't forget to read rec.sport.disc on USENET. This very old Internet service is now hosted by google at Google/Groups. rec.sport.disc has been in existence for frisbee players since at least 1991. Recenly I ran into a very good Ultimate team in San Diego who had never heard of rec.sport.disc. Frizb (talk) 19:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
  • Seriously, who calls it a flying disc? that is lame. The title should be FRISBEE66.195.36.133 (talk) 23:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
I love going through and reading all of your talk page comments. They are all so engaging and well thought out. Beach drifter (talk) 19:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

I strongly suspect that the word "frisbee" is far more common in general conversation than "flying disk", though the non-trademark name would be more common in anything published. Given what I understand to be the spirit of Wikipedia's naming conventions, I think this article should be on the page that people would most likely go to when looking up the article, and that would be "frisbee". I would support a move back. --Arctic Gnome (talkcontribs) 23:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, I had never heard of a 'flying disc' before I came here and if someone were to mention one to me I wouldn't know what they were talking about. Everyone knows what a frisbee is, it's a generic name now. The article should be moved back. Will Bradshaw (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

How was this 'resolved' by the way? There seems to be a stronger argument for using the word 'frisbee' as the generic noun in everyday use. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.197.170.248 (talk) 10:48, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


Just came here to ask what the actual fuck is going on with 'flying disc', considering not a single person I know has, or would ever, refer to a frisbee as a 'flying disc'. It appears that WHAM! are back from the 80's, and choosing sue instead of choosing life? I'm guessing the reason for this name change is because WHAM!(-O) are shitting bricks that everyone calls frisbees frisbees and are worried they'll lose their trademark. And whilst I'm sure some basement dwelling neckbeards can argue the ins and outs of Disctotators and Wafflecopter Discs not a single reference mentions 'FLYING DISC', they're all refering to them as 'discs'. So this is the first time those two words have come together, and to be truthful with you as an outside observer who knows SFA about frisbees (and doesn't really care to learn too much more!) you've lost all legitimacy with me because I now assume that this article is NPOV with some corporate muppet and sock puppet taint from Wham-O and / or basement dwelling frisbee aficianado and therefore questionable. Just a neutral outsiders opinion. I'd suggest trying to get a better consensus, most people here seem OPPOSED to flying dicks and prefer the term frisbee. BaSH PR0MPT (talk) 08:07, 15 September 2012 (UTC)


"Flying disc" is usually a UFO. It is used in place of "frisbee" in circumstances where there is a fear of lawsuits, such as in product or organization names. However, most players call the object a "disc", using "frisbee" more frequently when there might be situational ambiquity. I haven't heard "flying disc" in colloquial use in almost 30 years of playing mostly in southeastern USA. There seems to be a consensus to move this page back to "frisbee". Can we move the name of this article from Flying disc to Frisbee yet? Ggpauly (talk) 20:42, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Turning proEdit

The article says the first pro model went on sale 1964; how was it different from the "amateur" version? Trekphiler 11:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

  • As I recall, the "professional" was the first frisbee model to be released after the "pluto platter" My first frisbee was a red pluto platter street disk, and the "professional" was a big improvement. I recall it weighed about 110 grams, and a year or two later Wham-O released the "All-American" that weighed 126 grams. The "Master" Frisbee (150 grams)was released around 1968 or 1969 I think. That frisbee included registration numbers printed on the label, the same way that a Cessna has a tail number. If you lost your "Master" you had a promise from Wham-o to pay the postage to return it to you. Frizb (talk) 18:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

New picEdit

That new image at the top is pretty horrendous. Beach drifter (talk) 19:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I disagree, that is a better composed picture and closer to the actual frisbee. It is probably the ugliness of the person in it that is causing you a problem. SpinningSpark 21:59, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I should have been clearer. That is basically what I meant. The entire picture, from the hair draped across the mouth to the clumsy attempt at a catch, make the entire article less appealing. Beach drifter (talk) 22:12, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
I vote we crop it after the head and just have the disc part. --Liface (talk) 13:27, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
How about this image instead? The main reason to change images for me is because in the current image, it looks pretty unlikely that the player will successfully catch the frisbee (thereby making the caption inaccurate). The perceived attractiveness of the player is not really a legitimate issue (though the hair draped over the face is sort of distracting). -kotra (talk) 22:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
Nobody responded, so I was bold and changed it. Revert me if there are any objections. -kotra (talk) 19:35, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Stalag 13Edit

Is this verifiable, or is it subtle Hogan's Heros vandalism? Cheers, Dlohcierekim 13:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

  • I have never heard this before, and I have been flipping pages since 1960. What is true is that Morrison learned welding in the Army Air Force, and that hundreds and hundreds of bomber crew were captured and were imprisoned. That war was unique in the way that from 1941 (after Dunkirk) until June 1944 almost all of the British and American soldiers fought from the air. It seems possible that Morrison and Franscioni might have been among the many airmen who encountered German "fioux fighters" which many pilots reported as glowing disks which approached their aircraft and could hover and accelerate rapidly. There was some speculation (based on experiences of pilot survivors) that fioux fighters could disable an aircraft engine by shorting out the spark plugs with electromagnetic fields. "fioux" is French for "fire" Frizb (talk) 18:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Edits possibly attributed to Sam C. PolkEdit

I moved these statements from the main article's History section to here for discussion because they are claims of personal knowledge. Wikipedia does not allow personal claims (for example, "I know", "I was there") and instead requires citations to be to externally verifiable sources (newspapers articles, for example).

"I know, because I started the fad in the courtyard of the Law School the day after I registered for my third year of law in mid-October, 1946."
"Archivist Judith Ann Schiff's 2007 article implied that I claimed to have been the first to spin a pie tin at Yale; but I made no such claim -- how would I know? I only know I started the post-war fad which created a ready market for Wham-O's plastic disc. [e-mail address deleted for privacy reasons] "

I hope that an editor can use the information above as an aid to track down external, verifiable sources. --Zippy (talk) 04:33, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

During a visit to the Smithonian Air and Space museum over 30 years ago I noticed an exhibit of a Frisbie metal pie tin. It was claimed that this was the original Frisbee! Chris Nichols —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriscn95 (talkcontribs) 11:54, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

SpamwatchEdit

This article needs more watchlisters, to revert additions of manufacturer and retailer external links (sometimes disguised as informational links), and additions of external links to specific-game organizations (disc golf, guts, freestyle, etc.), which belong in the articles on specific games, not this general main-topic article. Really, there should be very, very few external links on this page. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 18:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Article NameEdit

Can there be another discussion about the name of this article? Especially with the Frisbee explanation in the second paragraph, it gives the impression that Wikipedians have moved it in order to appease the Wham-O company (which I'm sure isn't the case). Regardless, the previous discussion was very brief before there was a move to Flying disc and there appeared to be more concern after the move which was never addressed; the main point being that the common name should be used, not one used by aficionados/enthusiasts or prefered by the company, and even a brief Google (though not overruling or definitive by Wikipedia standards) will suggest that Frisbee is the far more well-known term. 62.56.87.114 (talk) 03:03, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

This article title uses an English phrase I have never heard in playing Ultimate in the US for 30 years.Edit

No one says "flying disc". Normally one says "disc". More frequently the pronoun "it" is used, as in "throw it deep". Rarely other terms are used, such as "bee". For clarity, for example in a situation with little context, one says "frisbee" (not capitalized to note the genericized meaning), or in other uses "golf disc", etc..

It's not that the words "flying disc" are never used. If I were writing an encyclopedic article on frisbees, I would define them as plastic flying discs. "Flying disc" is a product category and manufacturing label. The term is not, in my experience, adopted by the end users of the product. Usage of the term is common, and can be googled all day long. It is not used by people to refer to the product in actual life.

This is provable. Google the phrase "I saw a flying disc". ... Apparently, when used in the mouths of actual humans, this article should be about flying saucers and alien abductees.

I suggest following actual English usage, in all its muddy ambiguity, and title this article "frisbee". The titles "(flying) disc" or "(plastic flying) disc" revert to the misusage we're trying to fix. And no doubt there are carbon fiber discs out there now.Ggpauly (talk) 13:56, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

At the risk of sounding melodramatic, it just would be illegal. Wham-O technically owns the trademark. Hence, an article about "frisbee" could only be about the Wham-O product. There's a long gray period for a trademark to fall out unwillingly into the public domain, and the article already mentions the trademark is in jeopardy. WP is founded on surgical detail, so it's official statement should reflect the net situation out there. The article can be titled "frisbee" if/when the term is generally legally considered to have fallen out. WP can't take sides and suggest this should happen by reporting it already has. Squish7 (talk) 19:24, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
What are you talking about? No one checks the writing on the plastic when speaking about a frisbee. Frisbee has long been used for the item in question, more than 30 years. There is no question that the term is genericised in english. It's perfectly possible to be both a brand name and the english word for an item. See longer discussion at #Rename:_flying_disc_to_Frisbee_.28was_Frisbee_to_flying_disc.29 Ggpauly (talk) 20:19, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Addition to illuminated disc optionsEdit

I have invented/patented a Glow in the dark flying disc -- Flite by Nite (TM) that requires Glowsticks. It can be verified at http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7582003.PN.&OS=PN/7582003&RS=PN/7582003.

Can the verbiage be updated on your website to include Glowsticks? It will be available to market in January 2014.


There are also illuminated discs meant for nighttime play; they are made of a phosphorescent plastic or contain battery-powered light-emitting diodes. Others whistle when they reach a certain velocity in flight.

Chgo Angel (talk) 16:14, 13 November 2013 (UTC)Angel

WP isn't a patent directory. To be included, reputable entities have to be talking about your product or describing how it affects the market or society. If objective parties like general sports magazines review your product or relay news about its practical impact on people, that's a start, but that type of weight really has to be extensive to meet WP standards. Just look at how short the entire Aerobie article is, and there isn't even an article here for Daredevil discs. If your product develops in time, feel free to post those sources here and further your request (rather than try to insert them yourself, which is basically against policy), but I wouldn't hold your breath. WP is well-geared against use as a promotional medium. Squish7 (talk) 18:52, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

New ArticleEdit

A new article has recently been published on Wired.com called The Design Genius of the Frisbee. The article was written by Jonathan Keats on February 4th, 2015. In the Wired article, the inventor of the Frisbee is named Walter Morrison, where here in your article it is Fred Morrison. Are these two guys the same person? It might be best to check your sources to find out which one is the correct name to use. Here you can find the link to the Wired article: http://www.wired.com/2015/02/wham-o-frisbee/. Cheers, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 17:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)


His birth name was Walter Fredrick (not Frederick) Morrison. All his life he went by either Walter or Fred. To the flying disc community he is best know as Fred. See his book: Flat Flip Flies Straight–True Origins of the Frisbee for more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.221.117.11 (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

TrademarkEdit

How has Wham-O been able to successfully protect a trademark that they openly stole from a pie company, ironically because it had become the genericized term for the discs that they had previously been calling "Pluto Platters" ? I mean, the information refuting that trademark is right here in this article. And to think the NIMH movie actually changed a proper name, something which shouldn't be affected in the first place, because of that illegal aggressive legal shenanigan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.206.153 (talk) 03:32, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Rename PageEdit

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move to frisbee.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)


There has a been string of comments on the Talk page discussing the nonsense of the current page name for the frisbee, given that frisbee, while originally a brand name, continues to be the universally accepted generic word for thrown toy discs. (The article was originally called Frisbee, but changed in an apparent attempt to help influence real world adoption of the term 'flying disc'. That hasn't happened, but in any case, Wikipedia articles should not be edited in an attempt to influence external circumstances. Consequently I propose RENAME. Engleham (talk) 11:55, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

I second Redrose64's comment, though for what it's worth I think 'Frisbee' is the obvious choice, especially as it is already a redirect. Pincrete (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I'm closing the RfC and renaming due to (a) frisbee, while originally a brand name, continues to be the universally accepted generic word for thrown toy discs. And (b) articles should not be edited in an attempt to influence external circumstances. The article was originally called Frisbee, but changed in an apparent attempt to help influence real world adoption of the term 'flying disc'. Engleham (talk) 19:47, 14 May 2016 (UTC)

@Engleham: I agree, a move to frisbee is long overdue. Is there any particular reason you haven't actually done it? If not, I can.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 06:47, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

@Neil P. Quinn: I don't know why I didn't move it given its current name contravenes policy. I tried to move it and it's not letting me. Ugh! I've leave it to you Engleham (talk) 13:12, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
@Engleham: thank you for the update! I'll see whether I can get it taken care of.—Neil P. Quinn (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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Frisbee regulation in the USEdit

Although it sounds like a joke, on December 12, 2017, President Trump signed into law a rule that requires registration with the FAA when flying discs weighing .55 pounds or more outdoors. The rule applies to toy helicopters, boomerangs, frisbees, model airplanes or any other device that flys through the air using aerodynamic lift. The rule was implemented as part of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018. I've added a well-sourced paragraph about it to the article. Sparkie82 (tc) 21:00, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

More background: A few years ago in the US, the FAA instituted a policy that required people who fly model aircraft to register with the FAA if they fly devices outdoors that weigh more than .55 pounds. A flier took the FAA to court on the issue and the courts ruled that the FAA did not have the authority to require registration because congress had previously forbidden it from doing that. On December 12, 2017, President Trump signed into law a rule that reinstated that registration requirement. Although the media only focused on the registration of drones, the rule requires that any device weighing more than .55 pounds and flies through the air using aerodynamic lift is covered by the policy. This includes model aircraft, helicopters, boomerangs, frisbees, drones, gliders, or any other device that flies using aerodynamic lift. It doesn't include balloons or rockets, which are covered elsewhere in FAA regulations.Sparkie82 (tc) 14:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
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