# Talk:France/Archive 3

## Conventions Problem

It is stated that cars are driven on the right, when the United Kingdom is the only place where they are driven on the left. This may have something to do with the country's proximity, but it is excessive detail and somewhat laughable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.49.222.173 (talk) 12:55, 17 June 2008 (GMT)

Actually, there are quite a lot of countries that drive on the left. To name a few: Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Thailand, India and Japan. 80.7.186.169 (talk) 20:51, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

## Coat of arms

I'm removing the coat of arms, since it has hardly ever been used by officials and is unknown to French people. It could be replaced with a image of a rooster, or a bust of Marianne. If you really want a coat of arms though, I guess Frenchmen would recognise the middle-age royal coat of arms as their own.--Yitscar (talk) 14:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

You should put the coat of arms back. How can it be unknown to French people, it's on the front of all French passports! Also if someone wants to know what the current coat of arms of the French Republic is, where do you suggest they look it up?Jarby (talk) 15:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm reverting this edit. This is the official coat of arms of France, no matter which coat of arms Yitscar recognises best. JdeJ (talk) 15:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I didn't know they were on our passports. Like I said, I didn't know anything about it. The french article about them says that they aren't official, although it does say they figure on our passports. But it doesn't quote any source.
The article about French symbols suggests that the fleur de lys was the only offical coat of arms, although, again no sources are quoted. the same page presents the French logotype, which is used on every government letterhead, and thus fills the role of a coat of arms. (it is used as such in fr:Catégorie:France)
Now, I not dead set on this topic, it's just that when I opened the top page about my coutry and found something I had never heard about, it felt strange. I guess it would be OK to just mention 'unofficial coat of arms', but it would be better to replace it with the logotype--Yitscar (talk) 22:28, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
Sure it's on our passports, but it's its only usage. I've never seen it elsewhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.238.133.4 (talk) 17:36, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

## Intro too long

Don't you thik the intro is too long compared to other countries one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.32.57 (talk) 14:12, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

i totally agree.

--72.145.10.6 19:54, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Not at all. And with which countries are you comparing? The intro is marginally longer than for the United Kingdom and much shorter than for the USA. JdeJ 20:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I think it is fine. France is one of the major countries anyway. (Coming from a British point of view.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.151.178.110 (talk) 15:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

## Overseas Departments

I have changed the wording in several articles. I hope that someone with expert knowledge will respond to this comment. I am trying to discover if there is a significant difference under the French constitution and law between metropolitan and overseas departments. I clear unambiguous statement.

Under international law, and the United States constitution, Alaska, and Hawaii, are indistinguishable from the 48 contiguous states. Hawaii is over 3000 km from the rest of the United States but is just as much a part of the country as is Long Island which lies just 4 km from the mainland.

However these articles—France and French overseas departments—leave room for confusion. I found this "Overseas departments—Martinique, Guadeloupe, Réunion, and French Guiana—have the same political status as metropolitan departments" statement in the article on , Metropolitan France.

Going with that I edited the other two articles. I am hoping that if I am wrong someone will correct these. But this ambiguity has been bothering me for months so I took action today.

Nwbeeson 16:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

French overseas departments have no difference with metropolitan departements. The government representative is also a prefect named by the prime minister, and citizen of overseas departements have elected representatives in both chambers of the French parliament, they also have the same duties and rights as any other French citizen. So yes, French overseas departments are indistinguishable from other French departements, although not part of Europe, they are also part of EU. This is unlike other overseas territorial collectivities (i.e. French Polynesia, New Caledonia, Wallis and Futuna, ...) where the French president is the head of state, but they have their own assembly and only defense, diplomatic representation and to some extent justice are shared with metropolitan France. Blastwizard 18:58, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Differences are tiny, but do exist : article 73 of the French Constitution is specifically covering the status of overseas departments. The specificities : statutes and regulations « may be adapted in the light of the specific characteristics and constraints of those units » overseas ; « units to which this article applies may be empowered by statute to determine themselves the rules applicable in their territory in a limited number of matters » (this second disposition does not apply to Réunion, which can be considered as "more" metropolitan than the three American overseas departments. Hence it is pefectly reasonable to distinguish metropolitan departments and overseas departments. French Tourist 20:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

## fire me

"The football team is regarded as one of the most skillful teams in the world with one FIFA World Cup victory in 1998, one FIFA World Cup second place in 2006, and two European Championships in 1984 and 2000. They were also placed 2nd in the recent 2006 football world cup held in Germany."

It mentions them coming runners-up in the 2006 FIFA World Cup twice; the second mention really isn't necessary. --KatzMotel 09:09, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Redundancy removed. (That is redundant.)
Nwbeeson 16:05, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

## audio of country name plz

i tried looking up the individual IPA sounds but combining them hurt my head, can a francophone record his/herself saying the country's name and tack that onto the article? tia! 130.85.249.236 05:49, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

There are so many regional variations that it wouldn't really make sense. If you really want an audio record, mail me--Yitscar (talk) 10:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)