Talk:Elisiv of Kiev

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Daughters of Yaroslav the WiseEdit

Was Elisiv the second eldest? Who was the person that said which of the four was who? Elisiv birthdate is 1025 while Anastasia's is 1023, so why is Elisiv pictured as the second sister while Anastasia is pictured as the third sister. And do we even actually know if the supposive Agatha was the eldest? I'm just wondering is there any historical analysis or prove behind who is who is this image.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 01:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Tora TorbergsdatterEdit

Harald can't be married to Elisiv and take Tora Torbergsdatter as another wife! Polygamy wasn't accepted by the Church at the time.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 23:08, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

No, it was not, But that has not stopped several Christian king's from comitting bigamy. Look for example at Sophie von Dönhoff,Julie von Voß, Elisabeth Helene von Vieregg, Anna Sophie Reventlow, Margarethe von der Saale..... It was not accepted but they did it anywhay. This is simply what the information says. -- (talk) 23:54, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Usually in those cases, the second non-royal wife is not accepted as legitimate or their children either. It should mention this weird situation in the text of both articles and their husband's article.
The details should be mentioned, yes, but not untill we have a reference for them. As it is now, the references just confirms that he was married to both ot them at the same time. It offers no explanations or detailes about how this could be possible what so ever. It is a fact, however, that Tora is never called "queen", like Elisiv, just "wife". But of course, you can mention the fact that he had two wifes in all of the three articles; so much is after all confirmed, even if we have no further information. -- (talk) 13:24, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
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